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Raincoat New Product Announcement..

Posted By: themenz

Raincoat New Product Announcement.. - 04/05/08 03:35 PM

Wondering if this board allows posting of a blatantly commercial message about a new product for riders?

Raincoat keeps water off of plastic shields, visors. More info. here>

www.motosolutions.com/raincoat.html

mod edit: tweaked subject line.
Posted By: Boffin

Re: Raincoat New Product Announcement..Where does it go? - 04/05/08 04:09 PM

As per the user agreement you carefully read and digested when joining :

Rule 10:
If you own or are part of a motorcycle related, commercial enterprise you may make a one time announcement to the board. After that you may put a link in your signature line as your only reference to your business.


This post constitutes your one-time announcement

But it should go in bike related

Andy
Posted By: Mr_Ed

Re: Raincoat New Product Announcement.. - 04/05/08 04:30 PM

Looked at the demo video just because. While it seems to make the large drop of water roll off with ease I didn't see anything at all that gave me the impression that this would work any better than rain-x when it comes to dealing with lite spray. IMO It's the lite stuff that is the problem... big drops are no big deal if your shield is in good condition.
Posted By: Quinn

Re: Raincoat New Product Announcement.. - 04/05/08 10:38 PM

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Looked at the demo video just because. While it seems to make the large drop of water roll off with ease I didn't see anything at all that gave me the impression that this would work any better than rain-x when it comes to dealing with lite spray. IMO It's the lite stuff that is the problem... big drops are no big deal if your shield is in good condition.




I thought rain-x was a no-no on plastic?
Posted By: tonyla

Re: Raincoat New Product Announcement.. - 04/05/08 11:06 PM

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Looked at the demo video just because. While it seems to make the large drop of water roll off with ease I didn't see anything at all that gave me the impression that this would work any better than rain-x when it comes to dealing with lite spray. IMO It's the lite stuff that is the problem... big drops are no big deal if your shield is in good condition.




I thought rain-x was a no-no on plastic?




I have that for the lexan(sp) windshields
Posted By: Mr_Ed

Re: Raincoat New Product Announcement.. - 04/06/08 01:28 AM

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Looked at the demo video just because. While it seems to make the large drop of water roll off with ease I didn't see anything at all that gave me the impression that this would work any better than rain-x when it comes to dealing with lite spray. IMO It's the lite stuff that is the problem... big drops are no big deal if your shield is in good condition.




I thought rain-x was a no-no on plastic?




Ah... Did not know that. In anycase... I still wonder if this product helps in anyway when dealing with a lite mist. I believe that big drops of water are just too easy to shed and that's all the video covers.
Posted By: themenz

Re: Raincoat New Product Announcement.. - 04/06/08 03:52 AM

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Looked at the demo video just because. While it seems to make the large drop of water roll off with ease I didn't see anything at all that gave me the impression that this would work any better than rain-x when it comes to dealing with lite spray. IMO It's the lite stuff that is the problem... big drops are no big deal if your shield is in good condition.




Ed G makes a good point, that mist is a problem on our shields. You get behind a big truck or if you are in a fog, mist causes vision problems.

Raincoat makes larger drops fall with gravity almost instantly as you see in the video. As the drops get smaller, Raincoat beads them up and they blow off with the wind. Even the smallest drops bead up and appear smaller but it takes more wind to get rid of them. It is hard to show all that in a 60 second video.

Raincoat is not perfect at getting rid of the smallest drops. But it is the best out there by far. And it is guaranteed. If you don't like the way it handles mist, let me know and I will refund your purchase price and shipping.
Posted By: Bud

Re: Raincoat New Product Announcement.. - 04/06/08 05:54 AM

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Looked at the demo video just because. While it seems to make the large drop of water roll off with ease I didn't see anything at all that gave me the impression that this would work any better than rain-x when it comes to dealing with lite spray. IMO It's the lite stuff that is the problem... big drops are no big deal if your shield is in good condition.




Ed G makes a good point, that mist is a problem on our shields. You get behind a big truck or if you are in a fog, mist causes vision problems.

Raincoat makes larger drops fall with gravity almost instantly as you see in the video. As the drops get smaller, Raincoat beads them up and they blow off with the wind. Even the smallest drops bead up and appear smaller but it takes more wind to get rid of them. It is hard to show all that in a 60 second video.

Raincoat is not perfect at getting rid of the smallest drops. But it is the best out there by far. And it is guaranteed. If you don't like the way it handles mist, let me know and I will refund your purchase price and shipping.




Wish everything came with that sort of guarantee.
Posted By: Lawman

Re: Raincoat New Product Announcement.. - 04/06/08 12:39 PM

How does it compare to Cat Crap?
Posted By: DiggerJim

Re: Raincoat New Product Announcement.. - 04/06/08 05:21 PM

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Wish everything came with that sort of guarantee.


I haven't tried the latest formulation, but I have to say that I was involved in some of the tests of the product a year or so ago so I can vouch for the effort that was going into getting the formula right. The testing was run in a very disciplined way with results being asked for various precipitation events (rain, mist, snow), differing conditions and on different shields. I got the impression he was serious about getting it right. As an engineering geek type, I appreciate that kind of approach.

(no affiliation with the product outside of early testing)
Posted By: keithb

Re: Raincoat New Product Announcement.. - 04/06/08 05:56 PM

I have a feeling the inventor/seller is going to make a lot of sales ($$$$$$) with this product. Where do I order? hee, hee.
Posted By: Dick_at_Lake_Tahoe_NV

Re: Raincoat New Product Announcement.. - 04/06/08 08:09 PM

Sounds very interesting. How about a "Promotion Code", maybe free shipping or something for the first 100 of us that try it?
Posted By: Matts_12GS

Re: Raincoat New Product Announcement.. - 04/07/08 12:17 AM

Me, I just put car wax on my shields or else use copious amounts of HSC on them...
Posted By: Flyer5

Re: Raincoat New Product Announcement.. - 04/07/08 01:48 AM

I just ordered some. I will post after trying it . Dave
Posted By: markgoodrich

Re: Raincoat New Product Announcement.. - 04/07/08 02:36 AM

So, Menz, one question your fog video didn't address: how often do I have to apply the stuff to my helmet visor? Looks like a great product.
Posted By: xbubblehead

Re: Raincoat New Product Announcement.. - 04/07/08 03:40 AM

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how often do I have to apply the stuff to my helmet visor?



Appears to work great, thinkin bout getting some myself.
Posted By: EffBee

Re: Raincoat New Product Announcement.. - 04/07/08 06:10 AM

First, how about a name. Just fill in your bio (go to Home Page). It's always nice to know who you're talking to.

Second, congratulations on your product. Two questions as they relate to my experiences with Rain-X. Is it safe to use your product on the hard coating that Shoei, Arai and others use on their face shields. And with Rain-X I have had a sudden explosion of glare render me almost blind when the sun hits it at extreme angles. This is both on my bike and on my car's windshield. How does your product handle this?
Posted By: Wyn

Re: Raincoat New Product Announcement.. - 04/07/08 08:27 AM

Who's the babe?
Posted By: DonD

Re: Raincoat New Product Announcement.. - 04/08/08 02:33 AM

If I were you, I'd contact the editor at www.webbikeworld.com and offer a trial with your this and your antifog product. They've tested a number of antifogging solutions and haven't been satisfied with anything yet.
E-mail editor@webbikeworld.com
Posted By: drzep

Re: Raincoat New Product Announcement.. - 04/08/08 03:21 AM

I use Rain-X on my Aeroflow windscreen and think it stinks - actually, it doesn't work at all even though they recommend it be used on their screens. Do you think that Raincoat would work better on that type of acrylic than the Rain-X does(n't)?
Posted By: themenz

Re: Raincoat New Product Announcement.. - 04/09/08 08:21 PM

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How does it compare to Cat Crap?




Well CatCrap is for fogging and I think that Fogtech is better. But I make Fogtech

Raincoat does not stop fogging. It is designed for the outside of your visor or shield and causes raindrops to roll off.
Posted By: themenz

Re: Raincoat New Product Announcement.. - 04/09/08 08:21 PM

www.motosolutions.com will get you there.
Posted By: themenz

Re: Raincoat New Product Announcement.. - 04/09/08 08:24 PM

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Sounds very interesting. How about a "Promotion Code", maybe free shipping or something for the first 100 of us that try it?




OK, I am glad you asked. How about a coupon good for 20% off if you order on my site by April 30th?

Just enter BMSSportTouring in the coupon code box and press continue. It will be up in 10 minutes.

OK coupon is up.
Posted By: themenz

Re: Raincoat New Product Announcement.. - 04/09/08 08:29 PM

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So, Menz, one question your fog video didn't address: how often do I have to apply the stuff to my helmet visor? Looks like a great product.




Good question. Fuzzy answer>> It depends.

Depends on how aggressive you are at cleaning it and how much you ride in the rain and what type of shield. If you leave it alone you will get one to three weeks out of it with a decent amount of rain.

I put it on an acrylic airplane window that was left out in the open all winter. Rained maybe a dozen times. No snow..hey this is California. After 4 months Raincoat was still about 50% effective.

I would suggest that you apply every week or so if you clean your shield a lot or ride in heavy rains. Raincoat has not "built up" to any great extent that I have seen.

If you want to remove completely, gently use a V2 Sponge or a Mr. Clean Magic sponge.
Posted By: themenz

Re: Raincoat New Product Announcement.. - 04/09/08 08:36 PM

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First, how about a name. Just fill in your bio (go to Home Page). It's always nice to know who you're talking to.

Second, congratulations on your product. Two questions as they relate to my experiences with Rain-X. Is it safe to use on the hard coating that Shoei, Arai and others use on their face shields. And with Rain-X I have had a sudden explosion of glare render me almost blind when the sun hits it at extreme angles. This is both on my bike and on my car's windshield. How does your product handle this?




Name is done, thanks for suggesting.

Raincoat is safe to use on the hardcoats. I tested by soaking an Arai and a Shoei in full strength Raincoat for 2 days. Shields looked the same, no delamination, no color changes and they weighed the same to 1/100th of a gram so nothing was absorbed and nothing was lost.

I have not seen any glare. Just make sure you buff briskly and completely turning the cloth often. Use a dry cotton towell or washcloth if you want to make buffing easy. Hold up to a light to see if anything is left. Shield should be glossy and no haze, sparkles or swirls even at night.
Posted By: markgoodrich

Re: Raincoat New Product Announcement.. - 04/09/08 08:37 PM

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So, Menz, one question your fog video didn't address: how often do I have to apply the stuff to my helmet visor? Looks like a great product.




Good question. Fuzzy answer>> It depends.

Depends on how aggressive you are at cleaning it and how much you ride in the rain and what type of shield. If you leave it alone you will get one to three weeks out of it with a decent amount of rain.

I put it on an acrylic airplane window that was left out in the open all winter. Rained maybe a dozen times. No snow..hey this is California. After 4 months Raincoat was still about 50% effective.

I would suggest that you apply every week or so if you clean your shield a lot or ride in heavy rains. Raincoat has not "built up" to any great extent that I have seen.

If you want to remove completely, gently use a V2 Sponge or a Mr. Clean Magic sponge.




Uh, I guess my question was a little foggy: I was asking how long the NoFog stuff lasts....
Posted By: themenz

Re: Raincoat New Product Announcement.. - 04/09/08 08:38 PM

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If I were you, I'd contact the editor at www.webbikeworld.com and offer a trial with your this and your antifog product. They've tested a number of antifogging solutions and haven't been satisfied with anything yet.
E-mail editor@webbikeworld.com




Funny you bring that up. Just got off the phone with Rick. He said he received the product and is going to try to test in two weeks.
Posted By: themenz

Re: Raincoat New Product Announcement.. - 04/09/08 08:48 PM

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I use Rain-X on my Aeroflow windscreen and think it stinks - actually, it doesn't work at all even though they recommend it be used on their screens. Do you think that Raincoat would work better on that type of acrylic than the Rain-X does(n't)?




Well the makers of Rain-X are quite clear it is only for glass. And if you call their helpdesk, they will tell you not to use it on acrylic plastics found on some windshields. The alcohol can leech out the plasticizers. You might end up with a very hazy shield over time.

Rain-X did not seem to do much on my polycarbonate shields. Virtually all faceshields are polycarbonate.

Raincoat is designed for plastics acrylic, polycarbonate (Lexan) etc.
Posted By: themenz

Re: Raincoat New Product Announcement.. - 04/09/08 08:52 PM

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So, Menz, one question your fog video didn't address: how often do I have to apply the stuff to my helmet visor? Looks like a great product.




Good question. Fuzzy answer>> It depends.

Depends on how aggressive you are at cleaning it and how much you ride in the rain and what type of shield. If you leave it alone you will get one to three weeks out of it with a decent amount of rain.

I put it on an acrylic airplane window that was left out in the open all winter. Rained maybe a dozen times. No snow..hey this is California. After 4 months Raincoat was still about 50% effective.

I would suggest that you apply every week or so if you clean your shield a lot or ride in heavy rains. Raincoat has not "built up" to any great extent that I have seen.

If you want to remove completely, gently use a V2 Sponge or a Mr. Clean Magic sponge.




Uh, I guess my question was a little foggy: I was asking how long the NoFog stuff lasts....




You would think I would be used to foggy questions.

Fogtech lasts 3 to 5 days, but again, it depends. I have guys who get 15 days and others that are happy they get one day. Depends on humidity, how much heat/moisture you breathe or sweat, air flow, temperature and type of shield. YMMV as they say.
Posted By: drzep

Re: Raincoat New Product Announcement.. - 04/09/08 09:55 PM

Thank you sir. I'll give it a try.

But just to clarify - it was at the urging of Aeroflow that I put Rain-ex on the screen. I saw those big, bold "not for plastic" warnings on the bottle and it made me feel a touch weak in the knees right before I dumped it on my $300 screen!
Posted By: Dick_at_Lake_Tahoe_NV

Re: Raincoat New Product Announcement.. - 04/09/08 10:00 PM

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Sounds very interesting. How about a "Promotion Code", maybe free shipping or something for the first 100 of us that try it?




I just ordered Raincoat and Fogtech, it'll be interesting to try both of them.
Also please note the coupon should be BMW
OK, I am glad you asked. How about a coupon good for 20% off if you order on my site by April 30th?

Just enter BMSSportTouring in the coupon code box and press continue. It will be up in 10 minutes.

OK coupon is up.




OK, I just ordered Raincoat and Fogtech, please note the coupon code should be: BMWSportTouring
Posted By: drzep

Re: Raincoat New Product Announcement.. - 04/09/08 10:01 PM

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OK, I am glad you asked. How about a coupon good for 20% off if you order on my site by April 30th?

Just enter BMSSportTouring in the coupon code box and press continue. It will be up in 10 minutes.

OK coupon is up.




Just for those placing an order: its "BMWSportTouring". Can't wait!
Posted By: OoPEZoO

Re: Raincoat New Product Announcement.. - 04/09/08 10:50 PM

I'll give them both a try.......I've been fighting rain and/or fog almost everyday for the past two weeks.
Posted By: Mr_Ed

Re: Raincoat New Product Announcement.. - 04/09/08 11:58 PM

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How about a coupon good for 20% off if you order on my site by April 30th?

Just enter BMWSportTouring in the coupon code box and press continue. It will be up in 10 minutes.

OK coupon is up.




Gosh Golly.. Can't say "No" to a coupon code. Order has been submitted.

I have a Scorpion helmet with one of those "no fog" shields.. doesn't work for me at all..in fact it's worse than a shield with no coating. I look forward to giving both products a try.
Posted By: Bud

Re: Raincoat New Product Announcement.. - 04/10/08 05:32 PM

I just ordered and we will see how it works
Posted By: xbubblehead

Re: Raincoat New Product Announcement.. - 04/10/08 10:56 PM

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I just ordered and we will see how it works




The power of the web site. I will be testing mine when I go to Nova Scotia at the end of May. Hopefully, not to much testing.

themenz - thanks for the discount for the members.
Posted By: Flyer5

Re: Raincoat New Product Announcement.. - 04/11/08 01:17 AM

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I just ordered some. I will post after trying it . Dave






I guess I should have waited .
Posted By: pedro cerveza

Re: Raincoat New Product Announcement.. - 04/12/08 03:51 AM

I use quite a bit of Plexus on my shield. Will it remove your product?
Posted By: ozmojo

Re: Raincoat New Product Announcement.. - 04/12/08 06:27 PM

I just bought both products ... now if I only had a helmet.
Posted By: zamalou

Re: Raincoat New Product Announcement.. - 04/12/08 10:55 PM

Didn't get the discount, but was going to try anyway...
Posted By: MikeB60

Re: Raincoat New Product Announcement.. - 04/18/08 05:20 PM

I just got my shipment of Raincoat and Fogtech. Haven't tried the Raincoat yet but the Fogtech worked better than anything I've used before including cat crap and that Zooke stuff they sell at the bike shows. Two hour ride with temps between 35 and 40 including fog in the low areas. Not a spot of fog in my Shoei RF1000. I'm sold! I've got to go to Pensacola tomorrow and it looks like rain. Should get a chance to check out the Raincoat tomorrow.
Posted By: themenz

Re: Raincoat New Product Announcement.. - 04/18/08 06:57 PM

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I just ordered some. I will post after trying it . Dave




Hey send me your address and I will shoot some Fogtech to you for being an early bird. gene (at) motosolutions (dot) com
Posted By: themenz

Re: Raincoat New Product Announcement.. - 04/18/08 07:01 PM

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I use quite a bit of Plexus on my shield. Will it remove your product?




It might. Raincoat hangs on pretty good, but Plexus is a good cleaner. I have not tried to remove Raincoat with it. Try it and let me know. gene (at) motosolutions (dot) com
Posted By: OoPEZoO

Re: Raincoat New Product Announcement.. - 04/18/08 07:54 PM

I just received my raincoat and fogtech last night as well. I'm heading for NC next Wednesday and the 10 day forecast is looking iffy.......I'm kinda looking forward to see how well it all works.
Posted By: Nevets

Re: Raincoat New Product Announcement.. - 04/19/08 01:18 AM

OK, just purchased some of each. I'll report back how they work. We definitely have all types of "moisture" here in Michigan. I hope the Fogtech works, as itís a problem every morning for me lately. Iím also really interested how the Raincoat could work on the (factory) windshield.

Posted By: Francis

Re: Raincoat New Product Announcement.. - 04/19/08 03:54 AM

Ho will your products work on the Schuberth visors with the coating they have on the inside and the outside? They recomed only water to clean their visors.
Posted By: themenz

Re: Raincoat New Product Announcement.. - 04/20/08 01:48 PM

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Ho will your products work on the Schuberth visors with the coating they have on the inside and the outside? They recomed only water to clean their visors.




I always recommend that you follow the manufacturer's instructions. The anti-fog coating on the inside is soft and sensitive to chemicals. I have tried Fogtech over many anti-fogs coatings on safety glasses, paintball masks and an older Schuberth. Fogtech did not seem to impact the anti-fog layer. As a matter of fact, it made the anti-fog effect even better.

That being said, I would wait until the manufacturer applied coating stops works or show signs of fogging. Then apply Fogtech.

I have not tried Raincoat over the anti-fog coatings and I would not suggest you try that. Raincoat is usually used on the outside of the shield.
Posted By: xbubblehead

Re: Raincoat New Product Announcement.. - 04/20/08 06:21 PM

I received my Raincoat and apply it to three different helmets, a Shoei, Arai, and a Nolan N102 Ncom, and with lots o rain today. Great day to do some testing. Worked great on all three just as advertised.

I didn't get any Fogtech because I normally use the Nolan with the antifog insert - so I can't speak on that.
Posted By: Flyer5

Re: Raincoat New Product Announcement.. - 04/27/08 01:21 AM

I haven't had chance to ride in the rain yet, probably next week. The fog tech works great.
There is a rise between the hills on my way to work that every morning I would get a fogged face shield and wind shield . No more since using the fog tech . Only applied once in the last 2 weeks so far so good . Thanks for a great product . Dave
Posted By: Michael_T

Re: Raincoat New Product Announcement.. - 04/28/08 06:49 PM

Just ordered some and was wondering if there is a "shelf life" on either products?

Michael
Posted By: themenz

Re: Raincoat New Product Announcement.. - 04/29/08 02:46 AM

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Just ordered some and was wondering if there is a "shelf life" on either products?

Michael




Fogtech wipes should last 3 years in packet.

Raincoat is new, but I would expect a similar life. There is really nothing to change or go bad. I will be testing over the next few years.

If you have some product that has "gone bad", send it back and I will replace.
Posted By: Quinn

Re: Raincoat New Product Announcement.. - 05/23/08 01:22 AM

Has this been out long enough for someone to give us a review on how it works? With bug season here, I'm using plexus every three or four hours of ride time and wondering how the Raincoat works on top of it.
Posted By: OoPEZoO

Re: Raincoat New Product Announcement.. - 05/23/08 02:43 AM

I've used the Raincoat and the Fogtech a few times since I ordered it. Here is what I've found so far.

The Raincoat works well, but my spray cleaner (Honda brand detail polish) tends to eat the coating right off of my visor. It works awesome when it is initially applied, but I commute everyday on my bike and tend to find it a necessity to clean my visor almost every evening (due to bugs, dirt, water spots, etc....).

The fogtech works awesome, but it seems to wear off quickly. It works VERY well, its just that you need to have the foresight to put it on when you need it. Once again, I'm a daily commuter and just don't always keep an eye on the weather I'm going to be riding in over the next few days. The Honda Spray cleaner also removes the fogtech coating with every cleaning (which is pretty much every time I get stuck in the rain).

For daily commuting, they are both good products as long as you are willing to take the time to make sure you're good to go the night before (I really don't fit into this category). They both work great and I wish I had the discipline to keep my visor properly treated. If traveling, it is definitely worth the extra time to make sure you have a fresh coat of both products on your visor if you think you might hit some inclimate weather. The Fogtech keeps the inside nice and clear, while the Raincoat allows the water to just roll off of the outside of your visor. They definitely work as advertised........I'm just too lazy to keep up with reapplying them.
Posted By: OoPEZoO

Long term update for Raincoat/Fogtech - 08/16/08 09:33 PM

I just wanted dig up this old thread due to the success I've had with these products. That last review was from me only using the products a few times, and after going back to read it.....I feel it deserves a better response.

For anyone living in the mid-Atlantic states over the past few weeks, you know we have been getting pounded with torrential rains/thunderstorms almost every day. I even got to deal with hail TWICE this past week. Just to make it fun, these storms have been rolling through right about the time of my evening commute. After one particularly bad commute during heavy rain, I remembered about the raincoat/fogtech products I had sitting in my glove box. During this commute, I pretty much had the choice of closing the visor and dealing with a fogged up visor, or opening it and getting pelted with rain. And on top of that, I was having a horrible time seeing out of my visor because the water was sticking to it. When I got home, I cleaned and dried my visor really well and went about applying the products per the instructions.

That was about 2 1/2 weeks ago, and I have to say.....I am REALLY REALLY REALLY pleased with the results. My visor hasn't fogged up once since the application, and the Raincoat does a superb job of keeping the outside clear even during the heaviest downpours. All you need is the tiniest little bit of airflow over your visor, and the water just rolls right off. The other nice added benefit is that the Raincoat makes getting bug guts off a complete breeze. I used Honda spray detailer on a daily basis to keep my visor clean (we collect a lot of bugs here in Amish Country). That used to involve, spray, wipe, scratch off stubborn bugs with fingernail, wipe, polish. Now the bugs never seem to get stuck to the visor. Its almost as if the Raincoat works like a Teflon coating on a non-stick pan. Now I just usually wipe off the bugs and polish.......then every 2-3 days I might hit it with a little spray detailer, but that used to be a nightly ritual.

I have got into the habit of reapplying both products on the weekends, and it takes care of my visor for the entire week. I'm not a affiliated with the product at all, just one really satisfied customer. I give it
Posted By: NA-Chuck

Re: Long term update for Raincoat/Fogtech - 08/18/08 02:08 AM

So I am wondering who raincoat stacks up to Plexus? Anybody know?
Posted By: OoPEZoO

Re: Long term update for Raincoat/Fogtech - 08/18/08 11:40 AM

I have used plexus...it never impressed me. I thought it was marginal and overpriced. That is what led me to the Honda spray cleaner/detailer (which is the best detailer I've ever used).

This Raincoat stuff works more like Rain-X, but it won't destroy the optics of your plastic visor (rain-x will turn your visor milky white with continued use)
Posted By: johnlt

Re: Long term update for Raincoat/Fogtech - 08/18/08 12:51 PM

I used the Rain Coat frequently in Alaska and it worked well but when you use Plexus to clean the shield, it removes the Rain Coat wax coating so it needs to be re-applied. I tried their Fog Tech and it didn't seem to improve the fogging situation.
Posted By: Quinn

Re: Long term update for Raincoat/Fogtech - 08/18/08 04:01 PM

Keith, how are you cleaning your face shield between applications? I normally use Plexus every couple of hours on rural rides. Doesn't soumd like that would be good for the raincoat.
Posted By: OoPEZoO

Re: Long term update for Raincoat/Fogtech - 08/18/08 05:06 PM

 Originally Posted By: Quinn
Keith, how are you cleaning your face shield between applications? I normally use Plexus every couple of hours on rural rides. Doesn't soumd like that would be good for the raincoat.


It wouldn't be good for the raincoat. My spray cleaner also tends to eat away at the raincoat. The difference is that I find I'm using the spray cleaner much less often now. Once the Raincoat has been applied, I have found that I get good results by just cleaning the visor with a clean cloth and NOT USING the spray cleaner. That seems to leave the Raincoat intact. I have a large stash of 100% cotton cloth diapers I picked up at a car show. They work awesome as cleaning and polish rags. Instead of using the spray cleaner every day, I'm down to using it about once a week.......and even then it is just a very light spritz intsead of the heavy application I used to use.

A normal routine for me in the morning is to just grab my trusty rag and clean my visor. If there are some stubborn spots or smears, I'll give it a very light spritz of cleaner and it works out great. I can tell when the Raincoat is starting to wear off because the bugs really start to stick and I get left with water spots on my visor. When that happens, I spend a few minutes and reapply it. I have found that it tends to last me about 2 weeks at a shot, which translates into about 1200 miles of commuting for me.

The biggest help to me was to lay off the spray cleaner. A good clean rag does the trick just fine.
Posted By: VinnyR11

Re: Long term update for Raincoat/Fogtech - 08/19/08 01:29 PM

 Originally Posted By: OoPEZoO
I just wanted dig up this old thread due to the success I've had with these products. That last review was from me only using the products a few times, and after going back to read it.....I feel it deserves a better response.

For anyone living in the mid-Atlantic states over the past few weeks, you know we have been getting pounded with torrential rains/thunderstorms almost every day. I even got to deal with hail TWICE this past week. Just to make it fun, these storms have been rolling through right about the time of my evening commute. After one particularly bad commute during heavy rain, I remembered about the raincoat/fogtech products I had sitting in my glove box. During this commute, I pretty much had the choice of closing the visor and dealing with a fogged up visor, or opening it and getting pelted with rain. And on top of that, I was having a horrible time seeing out of my visor because the water was sticking to it. When I got home, I cleaned and dried my visor really well and went about applying the products per the instructions.

That was about 2 1/2 weeks ago, and I have to say.....I am REALLY REALLY REALLY pleased with the results. My visor hasn't fogged up once since the application, and the Raincoat does a superb job of keeping the outside clear even during the heaviest downpours. All you need is the tiniest little bit of airflow over your visor, and the water just rolls right off. The other nice added benefit is that the Raincoat makes getting bug guts off a complete breeze. I used Honda spray detailer on a daily basis to keep my visor clean (we collect a lot of bugs here in Amish Country). That used to involve, spray, wipe, scratch off stubborn bugs with fingernail, wipe, polish. Now the bugs never seem to get stuck to the visor. Its almost as if the Raincoat works like a Teflon coating on a non-stick pan. Now I just usually wipe off the bugs and polish.......then every 2-3 days I might hit it with a little spray detailer, but that used to be a nightly ritual.

I have got into the habit of reapplying both products on the weekends, and it takes care of my visor for the entire week. I'm not a affiliated with the product at all, just one really satisfied customer. I give it


Thanks so much for the update. My wife and I were touring in Vermont and NY and got hit regularly with those same storms. I have the Aerostich 3 finger rain cover gloves which work great, but the thumb squeegee is absolutely useless. It was a real pain. I have an over the glove squeegee, but it won't fit over the 3 finger glove. I really could have used this stuff, and will purchase it this week.

As an aside, you may want to try laying off all the polishing of your face shield. I've found that a good damp towel will do almost exactly the same job with much less bother. Using only water, very light pressure and rapid rubbing will get off any bugs you have, and it should leave the coating on your shield.
Posted By: themenz

Re: Long term update for Raincoat/Fogtech - 08/19/08 01:53 PM

Full Disclosure: I make Raincoat and Fogtech.

OoPEZoO,

Thank you for the longer term report. I would like to post it on my website if OK with you?

Your observations about Plexus and other cleaners on Raincoat are exactly in line with my experiments. So it is good to see those validated in the real world. It doesn't rain enough in California for me to test the longevity of Raincoat by riding.

Plexus is a very good cleaner and plastic polish, good enough to remove a portion of the Raincoat wax. So now I recommend a new coating when you clean your shield aggressively. Plain water or a light soap and water with limited rubbing don't seem to have much affect on the life of the Raincoat. But every manufacturer's shield is different so better to be safe.

I have also tried to apply Raincoat over shields cleaned by Plexus. A few riders said they were concerned that Raincoat would not stick with some Plexus left behind. Or that it might cause some vision defects. I did not see that. It worked just fine on my Arai, Shoei, HJC and Schuberth test shields that had a coating of Plexus.

Also, I have a report from the owner of Epicurean Riders that he puts Raincoat on all of his plastic, even his turn signals! He claims it keeps them cleaner much longer.

Epicurean Riders Comment

One last comment. I am modifying the packaging to make it easier to save and get more uses from the contents of each pouch. I would estimate that you will be able to coat your shield about 30 to 50 times with a typical 5 pack. Also the instructions are changing to make Raincoat much easier to buff.



Posted By: VinnyR11

Re: Long term update for Raincoat/Fogtech - 08/20/08 01:04 PM

 Originally Posted By: themenz
Full Disclosure: I make Raincoat and Fogtech.

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One last comment. I am modifying the packaging to make it easier to save and get more uses from the contents of each pouch. I would estimate that you will be able to coat your shield about 30 to 50 times with a typical 5 pack. Also the instructions are changing to make Raincoat much easier to buff.



I just ordered some yesterday. Will this have the new packaging?
Posted By: OoPEZoO

Re: Long term update for Raincoat/Fogtech - 08/20/08 01:50 PM

 Originally Posted By: themenz
Full Disclosure: I make Raincoat and Fogtech.

OoPEZoO,

Thank you for the longer term report. I would like to post it on my website if OK with you?



Sure thing......go for it

 Originally Posted By: themenz
Also, I have a report from the owner of Epicurean Riders that he puts Raincoat on all of his plastic, even his turn signals! He claims it keeps them cleaner much longer


I also have got into the habit of using it on my instrument faces (speedo, tach, and RID). It keeps them from getting water spots on them (which is a major pet peave of mine)
Posted By: themenz

Re: Long term update for Raincoat/Fogtech - 08/20/08 08:41 PM

 Originally Posted By: VinnyR11


I just ordered some yesterday. Will this have the new packaging?


Vinny, thank you for your order! No it won't have the new packaging sorry to say. The new packaging will start in about 30 days or so.

The product and quantity is identical, so do this to get the benefits-

Be careful when you open the pouch, tear right across the spout at the notches. Squeeze out a small amount eg a small pea sized glob onto the faceshield. Dampen your applicator by dunking it into water then squeezing out excess water. Spread the glob with the damp applicator. You want a thin coating so less is better. Let dry for one or two minutes. Then buff it with soft cotton cloth until transparent.

While it is drying, squeeze the remaining Raincoat to the bottom of the pouch, fold the opening tightly a couple of times and use a paper clip to seal. Should last 30 days or more.
Posted By: OoPEZoO

Re: Long term update for Raincoat/Fogtech - 08/20/08 09:03 PM

Hey Vinny,

If it helps, here is what I did. Instead of ripping the package open by hand, I cut it using scissors so that I would cut off some excess packaging but just nip the inner part where the product is held. Then I use what I need (very little), fold it over 2-3 times, and slap a paper clip on it. It keeps plenty long enough to reuse.
Posted By: VinnyR11

Re: Long term update for Raincoat/Fogtech - 08/20/08 10:58 PM

Thanks. I'll use that exact method.
Posted By: themenz

Re: Long term update for Raincoat/Fogtech - 08/23/08 05:29 PM

 Originally Posted By: OoPEZoO
Hey Vinny,

If it helps, here is what I did. Instead of ripping the package open by hand, I cut it using scissors so that I would cut off some excess packaging but just nip the inner part where the product is held. Then I use what I need (very little), fold it over 2-3 times, and slap a paper clip on it. It keeps plenty long enough to reuse.


Nice ideas!
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