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#834709 - 05/29/13 07:39 PM would you run this tire? (R1150RT rear, run a bit while deflated)  
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Hi ... got my first "stuck by the side of the road" flat tire (after now about 150K miles )as per below, weird deal that chunk of glass being at the right place / wrong time. I plugged it a home with the sticky-rope type material and it's holding air great.

During The Event it detached from the rim while getting to the shoulder so it was rolled a ways deflated and also was run in first gear a bit while deflated to power up onto the tow truck ramp and then rolled some more getting back off the tow rig.

My concern about running it is if the tire is weakened / compromised in a way I can't see from the stress and force of rolling the force of weight and power during the deflated maneuvers ... don't think I would worry much for short hops and surface roads locally but the heat etc effects of a long road trip have me a bit worried eek Any thoughts pro/con would be appreciated!


after removing "foreign object":


before


the "perp"


the "dark and rainy night" tow


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#834712 - 05/29/13 07:53 PM Re: would you run this tire? (R1150RT rear, run a bit while deflated) [Re: Doug 55]  
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Doug,

I think the tire would be fine after you plugged it, but I am a firm believer in safe is better than sorry on a motorcycle. I have had a flat at speed on a freeway and it is not fun so I do whatever I can to insure this is a minimized possibility. Sorry about the mishap but it sounds like you have had a good run of luck with your tires.


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#834727 - 05/29/13 09:36 PM Re: would you run this tire? (R1150RT rear, run a bit while deflated) [Re: Doug 55]  
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Glad it wasn't a worse outcome than that.

No.
YMMV


No scientific reason.

Good luck.


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#834734 - 05/29/13 10:34 PM Re: would you run this tire? (R1150RT rear, run a bit while deflated) [Re: Doug 55]  
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NO!

But, then again, I am entirely anal grin


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#834738 - 05/29/13 10:53 PM Re: would you run this tire? (R1150RT rear, run a bit while deflated) [Re: Doug 55]  
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Evening Doug

That is a pretty wide cut on the surface. The piece of glass is also fairly wide & wedge shaped. That means there is an above average chance that that glass wedge cut a tire inner cord.

You really can't tell much from the picture other than the gash is long enough to raise questions.

Personally I would remove the tire from the rim, remove the thread plug, then look inside to access the size of the hole on the inside, then probe around to see is you can find a cut cord.

If all looks OK inside then install a proper mushroom plug.

Thing is, once you remove the tire (if you don't do it yourself) you are probably farther ahead to just have a new tire mounted. Once your tire detached from the rim your original tire balance is no longer accurate anyhow.


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#834755 - 05/30/13 01:10 AM Re: would you run this tire? (R1150RT rear, run a bit while deflated) [Re: Doug 55]  
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Love that tow truck motorcycle carriage.

My feeling is that if you have to futz around with the tire before you'll trust it, save yourself the time and aggravation and get a new one.

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#834765 - 05/30/13 02:45 AM Re: would you run this tire? (R1150RT rear, run a bit while deflated) [Re: Doug 55]  
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Google "Zipper Rupture".....

#834789 - 05/30/13 10:15 AM Re: would you run this tire? (R1150RT rear, run a bit while deflated) [Re: Doug 55]  
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Dirt Rider has it. You need to remove the tire to inspect it from the inside before making a decision.

String plugs are temporary repairs.
IF the integrity of the tire was not harmed as in no cut cords, a proper plug/patch assembly can be installed from the inside.

If there is any black dust or rubber powder inside the tire its junk. This is from running it flat too long.

David


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#834792 - 05/30/13 10:28 AM Re: would you run this tire? (R1150RT rear, run a bit while deflated) [Re: Doug 55]  
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Last week we were in the van and heard a sound like automatic rifle fire. The van shook. I stopped, got out and walked around looking at all 4 tires. They weren't flat and I didn't see any sign of damage. 5 miles later, in East St. Louis, the right rear was flat. The sidewall had damage just like your photo above.

The tire place said the sound was that of plys separating.

I wouldn't risk my life riding on your tire.

YMMV


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#834794 - 05/30/13 10:41 AM Re: would you run this tire? (R1150RT rear, run a bit while deflated) [Re: Doug 55]  

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Years ago I had a brand new (less than 1000 miles) Dunlop punctured exactly the same way.
I took it to the tyre shop I used back then, which had already professionally repaired a number of tyres for me in the past and they "strongly advised" changing it because of ply damage.
Don't think they were trying to sell me another tyre since it was the only time they told me so: they must have had good reasons.

So I pass on the advice to you: have the tyre professionally examined, they should be able to tell you if it's worth repairing or not.

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