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#935828 - 07/04/15 06:35 AM Keeping Stuff Fresh On The Road  

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A weird question.
Sometimes when on the road I carry with me a small thermo bag to keep beverages and food at an acceptable temperature.
To keep it cool, I usually put one or two ice packs in it.

It works well if I am on the road just a couple of days, but problems start if I am on the road a third day.
Most hotels here haven't got in-room refrigerators hence recharging the ice pack is out of question. I've tried a few expedients, like buying ice bags at service stations and putting ice cold cans of fruit juice in the bag but the first turned out to be a disaster and the second doesn't work as well as the ice packs.

Is there any expedient/magical gadget I could use?

Thanks.

#935830 - 07/04/15 10:34 AM Re: Keeping Stuff Fresh On The Road [Re: ]  
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I do not know if they are available there in Europe, but I have a small 12 volt cooler. It keeps the contents about 30-40f cooler than the surrounding air which is refreshing but it needs to run a lot if not constantly to keep the contents cold and it has a large footprint for a bike considering the space of the actual box insides. I found it to be good for long trips in my truck but have not experimented the use of it for my bike. Perhaps the best solution for the third day is to use ice or outright buy a cold one at a gas stop.


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#935838 - 07/04/15 01:15 PM Re: Keeping Stuff Fresh On The Road [Re: ]  
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Is "dry ice" available for sale there (frozen CO2)? It will keep contents very cold. Do not handle it with bare skin, you'll get frost burns.


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#935840 - 07/04/15 01:43 PM Re: Keeping Stuff Fresh On The Road [Re: Michaelr11]  
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I can't offer a solution for the longer trips, but packing your cooler bag in the middle of your clothes might help by providing more insulation.

For trips of a few days, I'd suggest you freeze bottles of water, rather than chemical cold packs. They are cheaper, can provide cold drinking water as they thaw, and save weight and space as you use them up.

Most of the hotels here have small refrigerator/freezers so we can re-fill and re-freeze our bottles at night. Maybe the kitchen staff at your hotel or nearby restaurant could provide a little freezer space?


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#935841 - 07/04/15 02:00 PM Re: Keeping Stuff Fresh On The Road [Re: Michaelr11]  

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Thanks a lot to those who replied.

Yes, we have 12V refrigerators here. They aren't that expensive but I looked them up and the smallest one draws 50W. If I remember Physics II correctly, on a 12V circuit that means 4.16A draw... pretty close to the 5.0A limit the BMS-K will allow and I have enough assorted trash under the seat already to make me think twice about a direct battery piggytail. dopeslap

Originally Posted By: Michaelr11
Is "dry ice" available for sale there (frozen CO2)? It will keep contents very cold. Do not handle it with bare skin, you'll get frost burns.


That's actually a damn good idea... last time I was at the sports shop I saw some "dry ice" packs to treat bruises and the like. Just hit them hard enough and they drop to around 0C. No risk of frost burns. Given they are just 50c each, 10 will buy enough for a few trips. thumbsup

#935842 - 07/04/15 02:09 PM Re: Keeping Stuff Fresh On The Road [Re: ]  
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If all else fails, moisture and airflow will chill anything. When camping, we'd sometimes find ourselves in 90 deg F weather. A wet towel over the ice chest prevents ice runs since the evaporation chills the exterior of the ice chest keeping the interior cooler.
I do the same thing when crossing that damnable desert buy keeping a shirt and microfiber neck towel wet.
A mesh bag with a wet towel containing your cold items should work fine. Question is, where to put it?

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#935869 - 07/04/15 05:21 PM Re: Keeping Stuff Fresh On The Road [Re: ]  
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I just fill Ziploc bags with ice from the hotel ice machine. But they do leak sometimes.


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Have you tried burying the cold packs in an ice bucket filled with ice from the hotel overnight? Should be pretty frozen in the morning.


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#935875 - 07/04/15 07:08 PM Re: Keeping Stuff Fresh On The Road [Re: Bill_Walker]  

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Thanks for the suggestions, but 90% of the hotels here haven't got an ice machine nor other forms of refrigeration for the customers.

And they are bloody expensive as well, except for Spain. wink

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Originally Posted By: Kakugo
Thanks for the suggestions, but 90% of the hotels here haven't got an ice machine nor other forms of refrigeration for the customers.

And they are bloody expensive as well, except for Spain. wink


It's funny how different places are different. Even the cheapest motels in the US have an ice machine, and the ice is almost always free. Because you may want to put drinks on ice in your room.


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