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#964918 - 07/02/16 03:56 AM Near Miss - got really lucky  
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I am having a hard time shaking this one off.

Yesterday afternoon, nearly finished with a 100 mile ride I was on a two lane road headed towards home.

I approached an intersection where another road ends at this intersection. Two cars ahead of me stopped due to oncoming traffic and they were signaling a left; I was going to proceed straight.

Most probably have guessed already what happened next. As I stopped I looked in my mirror and saw a mini-van approaching too fast. You can sense closing speed, especially if you are expecting the vehicle has to stop. This all happened in about a second - the vehicles wheels locked up, I could see smoke or dirt fly up from the tires and the front of the van dive forward a bit. At this point I was sure I was going to be crushed by the mini-van. Then the van started a clockwise skid and I thought I might get lucky and it would crash on my right into the car in front of me. Thw twist/skid continued and the front of the van caught the grass on the shoulder and rolled down the embankment on the right shoulder then it rolled over onto its roof. All four occupants of the mini-van were pulled out without injury. Two adult women, two children - thankfully all were strapped in.

I was positioned about 4 or 5 feet behind the car that was turning, near the center line. The shoulder was very narrow with a grass embankment right after the shoulder. I don't think I could have been positioned differently. There would not have been room on the right to go around the left turning cars which is why I wouldn't have positioned myself to the right. In hindsight if I had tried to go around right I probably would have been struck by the van as it went by.

I pulled over to assist and give a witness report to the trooper once he arrived. I'm not really looking for an analysis of this, but the potential catastrophic damage that I missed here - I can't seem to clear my mind of it. I'm hoping that by sharing it I can put it behind. I might use my hazard lights the next time I'm stopped there. It is a popular left turn.


Michael Stock, Trinity NC
01 R1100RT, R60/6, R100
#964921 - 07/02/16 05:27 AM Re: Near Miss - got really lucky [Re: Michaelr11]  
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Michael - scary indeed. Might be a good time to have flashing brake lights.


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#964927 - 07/02/16 12:40 PM Re: Near Miss - got really lucky [Re: TheOtherLee]  
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Thanks Lee - already have them. Hyperlights on the rear, around the license plate and below the tail light. This was just a driver not paying attention to the road in front.

I drove past the location in my car yesterday. The skid marks only began a scary close distance to the intersection.


Michael Stock, Trinity NC
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#964939 - 07/02/16 02:49 PM Re: Near Miss - got really lucky [Re: Michaelr11]  
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That is a close call Michael...glad your are in one piece, though still processing. You just gave me another reason to get hyperlights on my RT.


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#965194 - 07/05/16 05:57 PM Re: Near Miss - got really lucky [Re: Medic Mike]  
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Originally Posted By: Medic Mike
That is a close call Michael...glad your are in one piece, though still processing. You just gave me another reason to get hyperlights on my RT.


So glad that situation resolved itself without injury. Very sobering. Lot's of inattention going on behind the wheel.

I wanted to give a little feedback on hyper-lights. A buddy had a set on a rented bike on our Colorado trip. I must say, particularly during the daytime, I felt the hyperlights were not as effective as I would have hoped. They just aren't large enough, IMO for really grabbing the attention from behind.

There are a lot of alternatives available now that might be worth looking into, including 'dynamic' brake lights to blink when decelerating and blink faster when using the brakes. I know Grand Rapids BMW had some kind of dynamic brake light when I was there this Spring. The BMW supplemental light is also an alternative.



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#965223 - 07/06/16 02:23 AM Re: Near Miss - got really lucky [Re: workin' them angels]  
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If the driver was texting, I am not sure any lights would have helped much. It is pretty scary out there these days. I'm glad you survived this one.

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#965595 - 07/10/16 09:02 PM Re: Near Miss - got really lucky [Re: Green RT]  
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Close calls are not fun "shake up/wake up" calls, but they beat the alternative. Glad you came out of it ok.

I have a red RT with many reflective "things" on it and I wear reflective gear. I keep one eye on the mirrors at stops and stay in gear for quick getaways from distracted drivers. I was still getting too many close calls. A year ago I added amber running lights on either side of the license plate and Hyperlights just below the rear light assembly, more or less at cage eye level. I have noticed a BIG reduction in close calls and that the cages now tend to stop further back than before. Still at the mercy of head down drivers though.


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#965824 - 07/13/16 04:08 PM Re: Near Miss - got really lucky [Re: Michaelr11]  
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That's spooky. I've seen accidents like that, albeit involving cars, where the offending driver either never braked or did it much too late.

It sounds like you've evaluated whether you could have done anything differently. The only thing I'd suggest that might help in a situation like that is decelerating much sooner and rolling slowly at a fairly great distance from the stopped/turning traffic, rather than being more or less immobilized. Still, this might be one of those situations where there just is no good alternative. And, frankly, sometimes I've found myself boxed in because I failed to anticipate what was happening ahead of me.

I installed a Clearwater Billie tail/brake light on my RT a few weeks ago. The light is very bright, even dimmed to 20%, and it's pretty darned smart in its flashing behavior. I was considering dimming it to 10%, but you've convinced me that it's probably slightly better to keep it at the more conspicuous/obnoxious level of brightness.

Glad to hear that you were uninjured and that the moron driver and her passengers were okay.


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#965830 - 07/13/16 07:02 PM Re: Near Miss - got really lucky [Re: Mike]  
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Yikes, glad all is ok.

Apart from all the advice such as extra rear lights, larger rear mirrors etc - I also recommend an Impact Air-Bag Vest.



http://www.safermoto.com/air-bag-vests/mlv-c/

A bit if extra insurance in a worse case. I've been using one for a few years. Cheers. wink


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#969710 - 09/02/16 10:24 PM Re: Near Miss - got really lucky [Re: zenwhipper]  
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Driving here in New York City I have taken up the practice of squeezing the brake lever on a fairly frequent basis when I am stopped. It continues to activate my Hyper Lights and I hope keep cabs, bikes, pedestrians and all other forms of critters alert. So far I have been lucky and not gotten hit.

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