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#976216 - 12/09/16 04:39 PM Musings on Cold Weather Riding  
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Yesterday the temperature dropped onto the high 30's and, not having ridden my 2016 RT for a week at least, I thought I would take it out. Put on my Kanetsu heated jacket, Aerostich Roadcrafter 2-piece suit over regular street clothes. Leather boots over medium wool socks. Insulated Olympia leather gloves and helmet.

I rode for about an hour and a half and started to feel a chill setting in. Had the grip warmers to level IV at times, which is hot! Seat at level II. My head was warm; I had a neck sleeve to keep air off my neck; feet didn't get cold. I could easily at a layer of wool as long underwear, top and bottom without bulking up too much. That might add to the time out in the elements wherein I am comfortably warm.

This setup is not bulky in the least; I hate the feeling of being stuffed inside clothes to keep warm. I recall in my early years of riding in cold weather all we could do was add layer upon layer and make some feeble attempt to block the wind with a Nylon windbreaker, newspapers, rain suit jacket.

I have started days on trips where the temperature is in the 30's early in the morning; you know that in a few hours things will heat up and one will be comfortable. It is disconcerting to start cold and know it's not going to warm up, maybe even get colder. Like riding in the heat one has to watch for body temperature effects. Many times I came in from rides chilled to the bone shivering uncontrollably. Not good.

Those are my musings, FWIW.

Larry


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#976217 - 12/09/16 05:17 PM Re: Musings on Cold Weather Riding [Re: fastlarry]  
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I really hate being cold so 3 years ago I bought a complete heated ensemble: gloves, jacket liner, pants, and socks. 37 degrees when I left the house for work this morning and was toasty warm the whole ride. Really could have just got by with the jacket liner and gloves but I wanted to check everything out. Yeah, I know I live in Florida but we do have a few cold days.

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#976218 - 12/09/16 05:21 PM Re: Musings on Cold Weather Riding [Re: fastlarry]  
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I chuckle when I read about riders taking off when it is in the 30's with not too much gear on....and saying they were not cold....on the ride to work! Well, under an hour means very little. Let it stay in the 30's and see how you feel in 4 hours and beyond! I have gear that is too large for anything but very cold rides. Don't like the feel of tight clothing. Heated jacket/gloves/pants/insoles. BUT...I am working on a different setup not using all the heated gear. I hate getting cold at rest stops when the heated gear is off! Truly a different world riding in the cold. Don't mention 38 degree rain........

#976234 - 12/09/16 10:04 PM Re: Musings on Cold Weather Riding [Re: fastlarry]  
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I'm still commuting every day here in NJ. 108 miles per day round trip. It's below 30 most mornings when I leave, and just around freezing when I get to PA in the very early AM. RT performing like a champ. W&S heated liner and Gerbings gloves from my 2010 heated gear comparo still performing well. The Sidi Deep Rain boots I just tested are a bit chillier inside than the much more expensive Gore Tex ADV versions I tested previously a few years ago.

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#976261 - 12/10/16 02:31 AM Re: Musings on Cold Weather Riding [Re: realshelby]  
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I've ridden four plus hours without heated gear in the 20's, layering is the key and I don't layer more than four.

My commute now is 50 miles one way, with traffic, that can easily exceed an hour. This morning was 26*, coming home was 32*. Not quite cold enough throughout the day for heated gear yet but last year was the first year I started wearing it regularly, essentially when the temps stay in the 20s.

I've gone down to 7* without heated gear so I know I can handle the cold.

Everyone acclimates differently, I like to wear the least amount of gear when it starts getting colder so that I can get accustomed to the colder air.


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#976269 - 12/10/16 04:22 AM Re: Musings on Cold Weather Riding [Re: fastlarry]  
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When your core body temp gets to 95F you are into hypothermia and in trouble. One doesn't get acclimated to hypothermia. It is simply heat transfer and it obeys its own laws.


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#976270 - 12/10/16 04:34 AM Re: Musings on Cold Weather Riding [Re: fastlarry]  
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Because I ride year 'round, my one nod to heated gear is a pair of battery powered (rechargeable) socks. I have a lot of technical gear from my days as an avid cyclist that I wear under my Aerostitch Transit or 3-layer Rev'It Sand suits, coupled with the wind protection afforded by the RT -- further enhanced by a "barn door" ZTeknik wind screen in winter -- is enough to keep me reasonably comfortable down to about 24 degrees. The one exception is my feet, which, even in GoreTex boots, stick out from the fairing enough to court frostbite. The socks really help on that score, and I don't have to worry about plugging into the bike, so I never get caught up on the dismount.

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#976275 - 12/10/16 09:45 AM Re: Musings on Cold Weather Riding [Re: Fathom]  

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Originally Posted By: Fathom

Because I ride year 'round, my one nod to heated gear is a pair of battery powered (rechargeable) socks. I have a lot of technical gear from my days as an avid cyclist that I wear under my Aerostitch Transit or 3-layer Rev'It Sand suits, coupled with the wind protection afforded by the RT -- further enhanced by a "barn door" ZTeknik wind screen in winter -- is enough to keep me reasonably comfortable down to about 24 degrees. The one exception is my feet, which, even in GoreTex boots, stick out from the fairing enough to court frostbite. The socks really help on that score, and I don't have to worry about plugging into the bike, so I never get caught up on the dismount.


What brand are those socks?

Thanks!

#976280 - 12/10/16 12:41 PM Re: Musings on Cold Weather Riding [Re: fastlarry]  
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Originally Posted By: fastlarry
When your core body temp gets to 95F you are into hypothermia and in trouble. One doesn't get acclimated to hypothermia. It is simply heat transfer and it obeys its own laws.


I've gone down with hypothermia when I was in the infantry, I know it's effects.

Everyone is different, hence, those that live in colder climates can walk around in t-shirts while others need fully insulated coats. Flip it over for warmer climates where the acclimated will be perfectly fine function in 120* heat, yet those that live in cooler climates will suffer heatstroke by doing the same activities.

Acclimate your body to its surrroundings and you will find that you need less of the coverings for warmth.

Winter riding is, to me, the best riding because of the clean crisp air and clear unhazy views. The only thing that stops me from going out on two wheels is the call for icy conditions but I have disregarded that in the past and have slide the bike down.

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#976291 - 12/10/16 05:27 PM Re: Musings on Cold Weather Riding [Re: fastlarry]  
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I have ridden year round in Pa. without heated gear until five years ago , I went with the Gerbings LT jacket and G3 gloves with a dual temp controller , works very well even at twenty degrees. Two years ago I visited friends in Wilmington,NC in late March , a ten hour ride from my home , it was 20deg when I left and never got above freezing until the first gas stop in VA and never hit forty until I was in NC the jacket and gloves performed very well , beats the old bulky layering system I used to use.

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