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#998527 - 10/06/17 05:42 PM Re: R1200RT Audio including radar detector - bluetooth or wired? [Re: Bill_Walker]  
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More questions for this thread: I've got everything, Sena/SM10/Bike audio/RD, all working properly. This includes the Nav IV voice instructions (oddly, it's some dude, instead of that woman). Wonder wheel is controlling volume, and of course I can switch sources that way.

I can't remember how I had my phone paired to the bike/or/SM10. SM10 has bike audio hard wired, as well as the RD. I want the phone paired with the bike/SM10 because it's my music source; I don't talk on the phone while riding. So that's one puzzle maybe someone can help with?

The Nav IV dude's volume is too low. I can't adjust the volume with the Nav control, as it informs me I must use the wonder wheel. But that increases volume for everything defeating the purpose of making the Nav instructions audible. I didn't have this problem with the GT. Help here would also be appreciated.

BTW, my Escort fit, barely, in the right speaker compartment...took the speaker out, of course. If anyone is interested, I will post photos and start a new thread. Yes, I know I don't have laser any more...getting hit with a laser means you have a ticket. I'd rather have the RD out of the weather and hidden. I also use a remote mute button fished out to the left handlebar.


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#998551 - 10/06/17 09:33 PM Re: R1200RT Audio including radar detector - bluetooth or wired? [Re: markgoodrich]  
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Originally Posted by markgoodrich
The Nav IV dude's volume is too low. I can't adjust the volume with the Nav control, as it informs me I must use the wonder wheel. But that increases volume for everything defeating the purpose of making the Nav instructions audible. I didn't have this problem with the GT. Help here would also be appreciated.


A couple things to try, these worked for my setup - phone->zumo->Sena SMH10.

Try adjusting the volume on the Sena while the NAV is providing directions. In at least some cases, the Sena can remember different volume levels for different sources. My zumo directions sounded like they were underwater until I turned down the volume.

Also, when the NAV tells you to use your audio device to set volume, try to ignore it (don't go back a menu). My zumo 590 tried to tell me the same thing, but actually displayed a several volume sliders if I just continued. I'm not certain this will work with the wonder wheel and BMW audio, but maybe...

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#998688 - 10/09/17 01:16 AM Re: R1200RT Audio including radar detector - bluetooth or wired? [Re: markgoodrich]  
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Originally Posted by markgoodrich
The Nav IV dude's volume is too low. I can't adjust the volume with the Nav control, as it informs me I must use the wonder wheel. But that increases volume for everything defeating the purpose of making the Nav instructions audible. I didn't have this problem with the GT. Help here would also be appreciated.


Is the Nav IV (IV? Does that even work with the wethead RT? Or did you get the VI?) paired with your headset, or is it feeding through the bike audio system? If it's paired with your headset, then what Larry said will work. If it's feeding through the bike audio system, I'm really surprised that it wouldn't let you set volume, but I haven't tried that mode yet. I plan to, though, because I don't like the way it mutes my music and V1 audio for a couple of seconds every time the GPS makes a sound.


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'12 Kawasaki KLX250S
'04 R1150RT (gone)
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#998779 - 10/10/17 12:28 PM Re: R1200RT Audio including radar detector - bluetooth or wired? [Re: markgoodrich]  
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Nav IV...? Must have an early model that had not yet grown up to become a Nav VI ....

But I digress....


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#998795 - 10/10/17 05:12 PM Re: R1200RT Audio including radar detector - bluetooth or wired? [Re: Bill_Walker]  
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Originally Posted by Bill_Walker
Originally Posted by markgoodrich
The Nav IV dude's volume is too low. I can't adjust the volume with the Nav control, as it informs me I must use the wonder wheel. But that increases volume for everything defeating the purpose of making the Nav instructions audible. I didn't have this problem with the GT. Help here would also be appreciated.


Is the Nav IV (IV? Does that even work with the wethead RT? Or did you get the VI?) paired with your headset, or is it feeding through the bike audio system? If it's paired with your headset, then what Larry said will work. If it's feeding through the bike audio system, I'm really surprised that it wouldn't let you set volume, but I haven't tried that mode yet. I plan to, though, because I don't like the way it mutes my music and V1 audio for a couple of seconds every time the GPS makes a sound.


It's the IV...the FOUR. I only use the thing for directions, see no reason to change it. It does fit, is connected through the bike stereo system, and nothing I've tried will get the volume up. Odd. Maybe I'll have to BT it to the Sena.


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#998976 - 10/13/17 04:49 PM Re: R1200RT Audio including radar detector - bluetooth or wired? [Re: Bill_Walker]  
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Okay, I've finally gotten around to finishing (actually I've spent all this week, every waking moment, futzing with all the farkles, but won't admit it), and have a new record after more than ten years of dealing with BMW tupperware screws: only ONE SCREW left over! This is akin to a miracle.

So:

Sena 20S.
Sena SM10
Phone, for music only, substitute any music source you want here, I don't talk on the phone while riding. No one ever calls me.
Escort RD
BMW Nav IV
MotoChello speaker/headset switch
USB-A to two USB-A Y-adapter.

1. Wired up the MotoChello per directions with at least 78 PosiTaps. After ten tries realized how to activate the switch, turned the speakers off. Ran the 3.5mm wire from the switch up to the front right cubby.

2. Installed the Escort in the right speaker hole, out of sight, turned display to all dark, Auto, No X band pickup, and of course have lost laser, and don't care. Powered by a nifty mute button (http://tinyurl.com/y7kddqma) from the fuse block. Mute button attached to left handlebar in reach of my thumb. Escort audio out to the SM-10. I think I used a mono-stereo adapter, can't remember, it's been years since I set the RD up, and I just transferred it from the old bike.

3. Opened up the SM10 and unplugged the battery. Powered the SM10 via USB-A-Micro USB to the Y adapter, in the right cubby, drilled a hole to fish the micro adapter out the bottom front (weather protection) of the cubby, ditto the 3.5mm audio cord from the MotoChello. Both plug into the SM10.

4. Phone audio out (see, you bought one of those new phones with no jack, didn't you, and now you can't do this) goes to the 3.5mm audio plug on the bike's cubby wires, and thus through the Bike audio system to the SM10

5. Nav IV audio is not BT, goes directly to the bike stereo, thus through the SM-10.

6. Sena 20S is paired with the SM10.

I hear things.


2016 R1200RT



#998989 - 10/13/17 09:51 PM Re: R1200RT Audio including radar detector - bluetooth or wired? [Re: Bill_Walker]  
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Okay, I've finally gotten around to finishing (actually I've spent all this week, every waking moment, futzing with all the farkles, but won't admit it), and have a new record after more than ten years of dealing with BMW tupperware screws: only ONE SCREW left over! This is akin to a miracle.

So:

Sena 20S.
Sena SM10
Phone, for music only, substitute any music source you want here, I don't talk on the phone while riding. No one ever calls me.
Escort RD
BMW Nav IV
MotoChello speaker/headset switch
USB-A to two USB-A Y-adapter.

1. Wired up the MotoChello per directions with at least 78 PosiTaps. After ten tries realized how to activate the switch, turned the speakers off. Ran the 3.5mm wire from the switch up to the front right cubby.

2. Installed the Escort in the right speaker hole, out of sight, turned display to all dark, Auto, No X band pickup, and of course have lost laser, and don't care. Powered by a nifty mute button (http://tinyurl.com/y7kddqma) from the fuse block. Mute button attached to left handlebar in reach of my thumb. Escort audio out to the SM-10. I think I used a mono-stereo adapter, can't remember, it's been years since I set the RD up, and I just transferred it from the old bike.

3. Opened up the SM10 and unplugged the battery. Powered the SM10 via USB-A-Micro USB to the Y adapter, in the right cubby, drilled a hole to fish the micro adapter out the bottom front (weather protection) of the cubby, ditto the 3.5mm audio cord from the MotoChello. Both plug into the SM10.

4. Phone audio out (see, you bought one of those new phones with no jack, didn't you, and now you can't do this) goes to the 3.5mm audio plug on the bike's cubby wires, and thus through the Bike audio system to the SM10

5. Nav IV audio is not BT, goes directly to the bike stereo, thus through the SM-10.

6. Sena 20S is paired with the SM10.

I hear things.


2016 R1200RT



#1005092 - 02/11/18 12:04 AM Re: R1200RT Audio including radar detector - bluetooth or wired? [Re: markgoodrich]  
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Originally Posted by markgoodrich
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3. Opened up the SM10 and unplugged the battery. Powered the SM10 via USB-A-Micro USB to the Y adapter, in the right cubby, drilled a hole to fish the micro adapter out the bottom front (weather protection) of the cubby, ditto the 3.5mm audio cord from the MotoChello. Both plug into the SM10.

I hear things.

Question, after the battery was disconnected on your SM10 did you power it with switched power so its completely off when the bike is shut down? I wasn't sure if the SM10 would operate without a battery? I'm in the process of installing in a remote location, I won't have easy access to turn the unit off/on and I'd love not to have any power drain once the bike is off. I understand the battery has 8 hour run time with 3 day stand by. Once the battery is dead the SM10 won't turn on until it has a minimal charge that take more then 10 minutes.

Jay

#1005100 - 02/11/18 02:24 AM Re: R1200RT Audio including radar detector - bluetooth or wired? [Re: Bill_Walker]  
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I'm pretty sure you can do what you are asking. It was quite awhile go, and ended up putting the battery back in. I can't remember why. I ran a micro usb cord from the bike usb port (in the right cubby) and charge the SM10 that way. I manually turn the SM10 off...when I remember to. Sorry I'm not more help.


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#1005182 - 02/13/18 03:43 AM Re: R1200RT Audio including radar detector - bluetooth or wired? [Re: strataj]  
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Originally Posted by strataj
Question, after the battery was disconnected on your SM10 did you power it with switched power so its completely off when the bike is shut down? I wasn't sure if the SM10 would operate without a battery? I'm in the process of installing in a remote location, I won't have easy access to turn the unit off/on and I'd love not to have any power drain once the bike is off. I understand the battery has 8 hour run time with 3 day stand by. Once the battery is dead the SM10 won't turn on until it has a minimal charge that take more then 10 minutes.

Jay


Mine is powered this way, using a harness that Rocket Moto builds that's based on the cigarettle lighter charger. The internal battery is disconnected, and the unit powers up and down with the bike (powered from a PDM60). That being said, I did have a problem with my first SM10. It worked fine like this for a while, and then stopped powering up with the bike. I took it out, and found it would power up from a USB wall wart, but not from any cig adapter. Weird. The second one has worked flawlessly in this mode.


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