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#998395 - 10/05/17 01:59 AM Re: Fear [Re: JamesW]  
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I think about this same thing from time to time. I have this compulsion to conquer my fears. Just a few days ago I hit a deer in my car on the way home. The next time I drove home from work, I went the same way although I don't have to just to revisit that fear. Today I took the bike to work and went home past the scene again and there was one of the forest rats standing on the side of the road not 50 yards from where the accident happened. It was just after dusk and I went to hit the horn to scare the thing but instead turned on my turn signal. (I'm still new to BMW switch gear). You have to do what is right for you. How long have you been riding? Did anything happen recently to get you thinking this way? Whatever your decision, I wish you the best.

#998400 - 10/05/17 03:21 AM Re: Fear [Re: JamesW]  
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I rarely use my RT for short local errands, anymore. Traffic and congestion take any fun out of it. What I like to do is head out to the countryside for a couple of hundred miles of backroad riding. There are dangers there, too, but fewer at one time. Then there is the long trip to somewhere, riding days on end in various conditions. Needless to say I put fewer miles on my RT all the time. As riders we need to keep constantly aware what is going on around us, not always easy with extraneous thoughts getting into our minds. Don't enter an intersection without checking the cars are actually stopped. Keep your bike prominate on the road easily seen; don't hide behind vehicles. Don't give drivers the idea that you are undecided what you want to do. Be decisive! Ride loose.


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#998402 - 10/05/17 04:22 AM Re: Fear [Re: JohnH VA]  
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Ride until you can't. It's that simple.

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#998403 - 10/05/17 04:49 AM Re: Fear [Re: JamesW]  
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Thanks very much for the helpful and insight filled posts. Went for a 150 mile ride today in light traffic and bright sun with temp from 64 to about 73 and loved every minute of it. Was on the FJR with its new Russell Day Long. Next ride will be on the RSL.

I really liked mbelectric's post, "Ride until you can't. It's that simple."

I am going to take a motorcycle safety course in the spring at least.

To answer a couple questions: (1) I've been riding for about 45 years mostly BMW. (2) I'm 74 next month. (3) Little things seem to happen just about every time I drive my car or ride my bikes. Mostly I just see people do things that just blow my mind. The average age in Florence, OR is 65 so you can expect to see some pretty amazing driving. Then there is the summer tourist traffic which increases noticeably each year with this year being unreal. The road inland from here is considered to be the most dangerous in the state with bad accidents occurring weekly. Passing in blind curves over double yellow lines is just rampant and I'm not exaggerating.

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#998404 - 10/05/17 06:28 AM Re: Fear [Re: JamesW]  
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Yep. I ride 3-4 times yearly to the OR coast from Bend. You're spot on regarding bad drivers on E/W routes. And it's worse in summer meeting motor coaches and trailers mid turn with their wheels well over the center line. Glad that autumn has cleared the roads for you.


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#998424 - 10/05/17 01:28 PM Re: Fear [Re: JamesW]  
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Originally Posted by JamesW
I just see people do things that just blow my mind.
A very telling statement. The good news is that you notice these things.
To ride or not is a question each of of will have to answer at some time. I just hope it is one that I make for myself and not one that someone or something makes for me.

Frank


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#998427 - 10/05/17 02:01 PM Re: Fear [Re: BendBill]  
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I was traveling East on I-40 last week out of Albuquerque and went across the Pan Handle, Oklahoma, Arkansas, and Tennessee. I needed to get to the East side of the country quickly so I took the interstate. I couldn't believe the semi traffic. Even on the weekend. You sure can tell the economy has picked up. The truck traffic was so dense, I had a hard time staying out of their blind spots. Of course they were in all 3 lanes with hardly any regard for faster traffic. I followed one truck for 20 miles as he hogged the left lane and just stayed abreast of another truck in the right lane. Anyway, I had 2 trucks come over into my lane and push me over into the shoulder. 2 cars did the same. I have Clearwater Darla on the front end too. Some stretches have very narrow shoulders from the left lane. Talk about stressful driving! I had bought a louder horn before the trip but didn't have time to install it. That was a mistake. The toot of an RT is anemic.
If had to drive in that stressful state all the time, I would quit. Next trip, I'm going to make sure I've got enough time to avoid the major highways.

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#998431 - 10/05/17 03:06 PM Re: Fear [Re: BendBill]  
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Originally Posted by BendBill
Yep. I ride 3-4 times yearly to the OR coast from Bend. You're spot on regarding bad drivers on E/W routes. And it's worse in summer meeting motor coaches and trailers mid turn with their wheels well over the center line. Glad that autumn has cleared the roads for you.


I have always liked to take a foray over to Eastern Oregon at least once a year but running the gauntlet on 126 over the hump has become a scary thing except in a narrow window in spring and fall. And then we have the overcrowded upper Willamette Valley all the time. When something becomes not at all fun it is time to think about maybe bagging it . Getting through Eugene on the beltway is also a challenge what with very, I mean VERY, frequent wrecks.

I bet the turbulence caused by all those trucks on I40 was absolutely exhausting! Gee, what fun!


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#998446 - 10/05/17 08:27 PM Re: Fear [Re: JamesW]  
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Originally Posted by JamesW

I bet the turbulence caused by all those trucks on I40 was absolutely exhausting! Gee, what fun!

Yeah, it was really bad. I was also fighting a 25mph cross wind at the same time. I was being pushed all over the place. Not fun for about 500 miles per day. The beer tasted really good at the end of the day.

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#998518 - 10/06/17 04:35 PM Re: Fear [Re: JamesW]  
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I live in a coastal town and most of my driving/riding are on secondary roads surrounded by woods. I have hit at least 4 deer and one bear in my cars and trucks but have only run over a rabbit so far on a motorbike and that was 20 years ago. Many near misses in cars but I seem to see the wildlife in lots of time when I am riding. I have been lucky but also I rarely ride at night which is when I usually hit something and I will ride out of my way to go around city traffic. I ride faster than I drive but am much more alert when I ride. You just have to pay attention and expect the worst from people in cars and trucks because they don't pay attention. Just the other day I was almost cut off from a car pulling out onto the road just as I was almost in front of him. If I had put my brakes on I would have hit him. I had to hit the throttle and veer around him. A car coming the other way blew their horn at me and probably thought "frigging bikers" just as I was thinking "frigging drivers". When I think back I had a feeling the car might pull out in front of me and I should have slowed down at that thought even though I was not speeding and had the right of way. Follow your instincts!


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