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#1000253 - 11/05/17 02:02 PM Undecided  
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I just turned 50 and I'm looking to start riding again. I spent my youth on dirt bikes and crotch rockets and now I'm trying to decide between a 1200 adventure or a 1600 GT. My wife and I camp a lot and pull our trailer with a 2017 long bed dually. I'm looking for something we can get around on and also haul in the bed of the truck. I like the idea of the adventure but i'm wondering just how much I'll use the "adventure" part. mostly we do beach runs and drives through the mountains. I have sat on both bikes and they both feel awesome, I think the adventure would be more practical but the GT would be more fun. any insight, or two up riders feedback would be helpful

#1000254 - 11/05/17 02:15 PM Re: Undecided [Re: gatormanpc]  
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In my opinion the 1600 is way too much to start back with.

The "Adventure" 1200 GS isn't going to do what you are thinking about better than the standard version. In fact it is heavier.

Neither are good bikes to put in the bed of a truck. Sure, if you have a really good place to load them, then a very good place to unload them, you will be fine. If you are using 4 wheeler type ramps from level ground, then prepare for the worst case. These are just too big and heavy to manhandle into the truck. I back a truck into a ditch here at the house so the ramps are nearly level, and unload the same way. A small trailer is the way to go if you want to take the bike along. It will make EVERYTHING a lot less stressful!

Consider buying something used and getting back into riding for a few months at least. Then move up after you have a better feel for what will be best for you.

#1000255 - 11/05/17 02:19 PM Re: Undecided [Re: gatormanpc]  
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Welcome to forum, good to have you here. Have you ridden the GSA and the 1600? If not, you should do so, preferably with your wife as her comfort is the key. And don't discount the RT meeting your requirements either.

Be well.

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#1000256 - 11/05/17 02:22 PM Re: Undecided [Re: realshelby]  
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thanks for the input- unloading is my biggest fear. I would be using a full width ramp though

#1000258 - 11/05/17 02:30 PM Re: Undecided [Re: gatormanpc]  
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Good advice above. Be sure to test ride the RT. You might be surprised how well it will work for the both of you.

Glad to have you here. clap Welcome to the family wave Friendly folks and a couple of "old pharts". grin


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I haven't had too many Beemers, I just don't have enough time.
#1000259 - 11/05/17 02:57 PM Re: Undecided [Re: gatormanpc]  
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Welcome.
Forget putting into the truck.
Get one of the trailers that ez load by dropping
to ground level to load.
More money up front, but worth it wrt time, safety, and ease.

Two up?
Put some miles on the bike first.
Five thousand or so in every condition.
Get comfortable gear.
Get communication set up.
Practice mount/dismount, stop/go parking lot turns, slow speed.
Both bikes are big and two up requires practice.
IMO, what bike is relatively subjective.
Depending on your size and pillion, luggage needs, distance between stops, differencs between the two will
be noticeable.
Best wishes.


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#1000261 - 11/05/17 03:09 PM Re: Undecided [Re: gatormanpc]  
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I agree with the above sentiments regarding both of those being large bikes to regularly load/unload solo into/out of a truck bed. BUT I understand a trailer is not an option because you are already pulling a travel trailer. If you've got the money to buy a new bike maybe you also have the money to buy one of the systems that mounts in the bed of your truck and loads the bike for you? If not, I'd lower the bike budget to as used a model as it takes to be able to afford one - you'll be much more likely to use whatever bike you have if loading/unloading is easy.

As for which bike - well, both of those are big and heavy and if you're not going to go off-road and don't need a huge gas tank, no reason for the A as a regular GS will do. As above, go ride them all and see what works. Practice a lot, per tallman, before putting your wife on the back for a ride BUT DO have her sit on the back (on the center stand) of each at the shop and see what she thinks.


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#1000265 - 11/05/17 04:18 PM Re: Undecided [Re: gatormanpc]  
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A power lift might make hauling a R1200 or even a K1600 possible, but hauling that much weight would not be fun. It sounds like most of your usage would be for relatively short trips from camp, so there is no real need for a big mile-muncher. Comfort requirements change considerably when the trip time drops from all-day to an hour or two. Something in the 650-800cc range (or even smaller) would be much easier to load and make off-pavement excursions easier.


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#1000266 - 11/05/17 04:22 PM Re: Undecided [Re: lkraus]  
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Fifth wheel travel trailer with a garage in the back is the preferred method used by several of my friends.

#1000267 - 11/05/17 04:53 PM Re: Undecided [Re: gatormanpc]  
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Consider buying something used and getting back into riding for a few months at least. Then move up after you have a better feel for what will be best for you.

Excellent advice, and not only from a financial standpoint. More options and no heavy investment and any loss when selling on can be likened to 'rent' . I'd actually consider any of the 'naked' sport bikes , BMW like the 1100R or 1200R or any of the Honda/Yamaha/Kawasaki variants. Lighter but still with enough power to make a fun transition back to riding. Another factor not mentioned is size ... not to be indelicate ... but you and wife. Although you did say you have sat on them so you have an idea of bar reach and foot reach to ground, going from dirt and sport bikes years ago to two up on big, heavy bikes is not to be underestimated.


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