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#1000379 - 11/07/17 02:06 AM Re: R 1200RT clutch job bits & pieces [Re: ScottT]  
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Originally Posted by ScottT
I had my clutch replaced two and a half years ago (112k). I decided it was worth it to pay the dealer to do it for me. One of the finest decisions I ever made. I had them replace all all of the parts (except the fly wheel) and I provided the oil-resistant clutch from Beemerboneyard.com. If you're near a decent dealer and have the loot, let them do it.


Total opposite for me.;)

I'm glad I did it myself. I now have a better knowledge of how my bike is put together and saved $2k

YMMV


Daniel

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#1000380 - 11/07/17 02:07 AM Re: R 1200RT clutch job bits & pieces [Re: dduelin]  
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Well, the worm turns. The condition of the clutch pack, while worn, did not look like it should be making the noise it made before being taken apart. I turned my attention to the gearbox and found the input shaft bearing worn and allowing about 1.5 mm of play all around. This probably allowed the shaft and friction disk to wobble inside the housing cover and take the push rod with it. Inspection of the push rod and showed surface polishing from the beating it took against the pressure plate and inside bore of the input shaft. The input shaft from BMW is $700 and the bearings another $100. I guess I'm in the hunt for a used transmission if the fix involves a new input shaft.


Dave
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#1000381 - 11/07/17 02:11 AM Re: R 1200RT clutch job bits & pieces [Re: Dann]  
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Originally Posted by Dann
Originally Posted by ScottT
I had my clutch replaced two and a half years ago (112k). I decided it was worth it to pay the dealer to do it for me. One of the finest decisions I ever made. I had them replace all all of the parts (except the fly wheel) and I provided the oil-resistant clutch from Beemerboneyard.com. If you're near a decent dealer and have the loot, let them do it.


Total opposite for me.;)

I'm glad I did it myself. I now have a better knowledge of how my bike is put together and saved $2k

YMMV

Yes, same here. I always do my own work if possible to save money and learn how things work plus at this point it would hard to put the front half of the bike and all the back end parts in the car and take it to a dealer. Some things are outside of my ability of course but this wasn't - at least when I started the job.


Dave
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#1000394 - 11/07/17 11:21 AM Re: R 1200RT clutch job bits & pieces [Re: dduelin]  
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Originally Posted by dduelin
Well, the worm turns. The condition of the clutch pack, while worn, did not look like it should be making the noise it made before being taken apart. I turned my attention to the gearbox and found the input shaft bearing worn and allowing about 1.5 mm of play all around. This probably allowed the shaft and friction disk to wobble inside the housing cover and take the push rod with it. Inspection of the push rod and showed surface polishing from the beating it took against the pressure plate and inside bore of the input shaft. The input shaft from BMW is $700 and the bearings another $100. I guess I'm in the hunt for a used transmission if the fix involves a new input shaft.


Morning dduelin

Check your engine rear main bearing to crankshaft for a excessive crankshaft lateral movement within the main bearing. (move rear of crankshaft back & forth from side to side).

A worn & sloppy rear main bearing can take the front trans input shaft bearing out.


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#1000395 - 11/07/17 11:39 AM Re: R 1200RT clutch job bits & pieces [Re: dirtrider]  
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Originally Posted by dirtrider
Originally Posted by dduelin
Well, the worm turns. The condition of the clutch pack, while worn, did not look like it should be making the noise it made before being taken apart. I turned my attention to the gearbox and found the input shaft bearing worn and allowing about 1.5 mm of play all around. This probably allowed the shaft and friction disk to wobble inside the housing cover and take the push rod with it. Inspection of the push rod and showed surface polishing from the beating it took against the pressure plate and inside bore of the input shaft. The input shaft from BMW is $700 and the bearings another $100. I guess I'm in the hunt for a used transmission if the fix involves a new input shaft.


Morning dduelin

Check your engine rear main bearing to crankshaft for a excessive crankshaft lateral movement within the main bearing. (move rear of crankshaft back & forth from side to side).

A worn & sloppy rear main bearing can take the front trans input shaft bearing out.

Morning to you as well. I can detect no lateral or longitudinal movement of the crankshaft.


Dave
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#1000396 - 11/07/17 12:27 PM Re: R 1200RT clutch job bits & pieces [Re: dduelin]  
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Dave, thanks for taking us along on the investigation and repair. You've made great and quick progress


Dave
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#1000407 - 11/07/17 01:52 PM Re: R 1200RT clutch job bits & pieces [Re: dduelin]  
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Is there any difference or desirability of gearboxes by year of production run '04 to '09? For fleaBay purposes?


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#1000412 - 11/07/17 02:46 PM Re: R 1200RT clutch job bits & pieces [Re: dduelin]  
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Originally Posted by dduelin
Is there any difference or desirability of gearboxes by year of production run '04 to '09? For fleaBay purposes?


I bought a used tranny from rubbersideup. Good prices there.


Richard
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#1000413 - 11/07/17 02:47 PM Re: R 1200RT clutch job bits & pieces [Re: Dann]  
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Originally Posted by Dann
Originally Posted by ScottT
I had my clutch replaced two and a half years ago (112k). I decided it was worth it to pay the dealer to do it for me. One of the finest decisions I ever made. I had them replace all all of the parts (except the fly wheel) and I provided the oil-resistant clutch from Beemerboneyard.com. If you're near a decent dealer and have the loot, let them do it.


Total opposite for me.;)

I'm glad I did it myself. I now have a better knowledge of how my bike is put together and saved $2k

YMMV


I don't need to have a better knowledge of how my bike is put together and besides that, my hourly rate of frustration far exceeds the $2k expense wink There's a sign in my garage that reads "Caution: Tool throwing area".


Richard
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2014 HP4
2010 Shadow RS
2006 R1200rt
PRC-E7
#1000419 - 11/07/17 03:10 PM Re: R 1200RT clutch job bits & pieces [Re: Living the Dream]  
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Originally Posted by Living the Dream
Originally Posted by Dann
Originally Posted by ScottT
I had my clutch replaced two and a half years ago (112k). I decided it was worth it to pay the dealer to do it for me. One of the finest decisions I ever made. I had them replace all all of the parts (except the fly wheel) and I provided the oil-resistant clutch from Beemerboneyard.com. If you're near a decent dealer and have the loot, let them do it.


Total opposite for me.;)

I'm glad I did it myself. I now have a better knowledge of how my bike is put together and saved $2k

YMMV


I don't need to have a better knowledge of how my bike is put together and besides that, my hourly rate of frustration far exceeds the $2k expense wink There's a sign in my garage that reads "Caution: Tool throwing area".



I had a clutch replaced a couple of months ago by a a VERY reputable dealer for various reasons (away from home, figured they would do a faster/better job than I, etc.). The price wasn't really that bad considering the cost I would have had in parts, but given the choice again I'd do it myself. Took two return trips and re-removal of the drivetrain from tranny back to put things -almost- right.

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