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#1000046 - 11/01/17 05:21 PM Mod Chips?  
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Friend of mine put one of these in his 2003 1150 and raved about it. I am pretty skeptical.

https://goo.gl/4P6wRi


Nothing ever tastes as sweet as a few bugs in your teeth.
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#1000047 - 11/01/17 05:43 PM Re: Mod Chips? [Re: Bimmer-Biker]  
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... I am not your freind, but I also put one of these chips into my 2004 RT ...

- I kind of feel i makes my life better, and makes me feel more happy, I lost a few pounds and my teeth looks more white ... smile

- what the chip have done to the bike is harder for me to explain ... but Kirk have done a nice video where he talks about it ! ... and I think hes got some good points.

https://youtu.be/pHNLb_epZTQ


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#1000048 - 11/01/17 05:50 PM Re: Mod Chips? [Re: Bimmer-Biker]  
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Originally Posted by Bimmer-Biker
Friend of mine put one of these in his 2003 1150 and raved about it. I am pretty skeptical.

https://goo.gl/4P6wRi



Afternoon Bimmer-Biker

With a claim of "+20%, power +12% more final speed" you should be skeptical, very skeptical.


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#1000052 - 11/01/17 06:25 PM Re: Mod Chips? [Re: Bimmer-Biker]  
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Any effect on Male Potency? It seems to do everything else. thumbsup

All manufactures leave a safety margin on timing. But 9 deg. more adv. at mid range. hmmmm? Means BMW left a lot on the table.
I have a 1969 car and was able to add that much adv. at low-mid rpm... but this was on an early emissions car that suffered a huge performance loss over its non EPA'd older cousins.

I'm with DR, you go first & report back. I can always use more torque to hide my lack of riding talent.
Dave

#1000053 - 11/01/17 08:05 PM Re: Mod Chips? [Re: Bimmer-Biker]  
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... for me and my bike, it makes the job like "Boosterplug" - " Powercommander" and "Af-axied" ... gives me a better ride , more smooth riding, and a bit longer before i have to refuel ... ... anyway, Kirk in the youtupe video link above says it all much better, and hes from your side of the pond smile

I have never been to end of the final speed, so cant tell if it is true .

- ill just go back to the saltmines for now ...


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#1000057 - 11/01/17 09:25 PM Re: Mod Chips? [Re: Bimmer-Biker]  
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I tried one. It added fuel that the Motronic started removing over the first few miles. The guy doing the chips doesn’t understand the role of long term fuel trims.

As for 20% more power by a chip change, we all know that’s impossible, right? And to add 12% to top speed you need a 40% HP increase on an 1150.

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#1000088 - 11/02/17 02:29 AM Re: Mod Chips? [Re: roger 04 rt]  
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Originally Posted by roger 04 rt
...The guy doing the chips doesn’t understand the role of long term fuel trims.


ECU/PCM/Motronic (however you want to call it) is one of those things I know enough about to know that I don't know enough about them to be qualified to make adjustments.

But a situation like that, where someone doesn't understand long term fuel trim would make me wonder what else they don't understand, and what other shortcuts or mistakes they might have made.

I've done some modest tuning with a MegaSquirt on a race car - adjusting spark advance and duration and injector timing... and I know that there's a ton more to it than that (which is why I called it quits and told the car owner they needed an expert - not me!)


Scott
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#1000095 - 11/02/17 11:57 AM Re: Mod Chips? [Re: avu3]  
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Originally Posted by avu3
Originally Posted by roger 04 rt
...The guy doing the chips doesn’t understand the role of long term fuel trims.


ECU/PCM/Motronic (however you want to call it) is one of those things I know enough about to know that I don't know enough about them to be qualified to make adjustments.

But a situation like that, where someone doesn't understand long term fuel trim would make me wonder what else they don't understand, and what other shortcuts or mistakes they might have made.

I've done some modest tuning with a MegaSquirt on a race car - adjusting spark advance and duration and injector timing... and I know that there's a ton more to it than that (which is why I called it quits and told the car owner they needed an expert - not me!)


You raise a good question, what else don’t they understand? One of the details I noticed was that although the ignition advance was increased on the chip I tested, the dwell angle had not been altered. As a result, the average dwell time on the stick coils dropped form 1 mS to about 0.5 mS. So as you said, there’s a lot to know to alter the bmw tables correctly.

#1000099 - 11/02/17 01:01 PM Re: Mod Chips? [Re: dirtrider]  
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Originally Posted by dirtrider
Originally Posted by Bimmer-Biker
Friend of mine put one of these in his 2003 1150 and raved about it. I am pretty skeptical.

https://goo.gl/4P6wRi



Afternoon Bimmer-Biker

With a claim of "+20%, power +12% more final speed" you should be skeptical, very skeptical.



Ridiculous.
I got a 43.86% increase just reading the instructions.
Everyone knows that BMW engineers leave a lot of oomphypower available with many mods that will give you more acceleration,
Better mpg, higher top speed, faster roll on in every gear, make your headlight brighter, and eliminate flat tires.
Lighter wallet always makes bike go faster, right?


If my mind wanders, should I follow it?
Tim
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1996 R 100 RSL
1980 R 100 RT
1972 R 75
1968 R 50
All now gone...

#1000101 - 11/02/17 01:31 PM Re: Mod Chips? [Re: Bimmer-Biker]  
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Not a mod chip by any stretch but a final drive rebuild has given me a easier turning rear tire. My friend Michael noticed the wheel being hard to turn when we were changing out brake linings. Cleaning and lubing the caliper pins helped but there is a tremendous difference in the turning of the tire now. I should expect less drag, more MPG and overall better performance. I am the convinced the original drag was primarily caused by the big bearing going bad.


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