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#1000652 - 11/10/17 05:46 PM Re: Roadracing Suits [Re: JohnnyJ]  
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You should also consider Bates in Long Beach.


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#1000676 - 11/11/17 01:52 AM Re: Roadracing Suits [Re: Tri750]  
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I live in San Luis Obispo, but I grew up in Bakersfield and still have family there. I pass by B/W fairly often. I've only been on one track, and that was Willow Springs many years ago. Right now I have 2 motorcycles a Yamaha FJR 1300 (2015), and a Kawasaki KLR (2007), but hope to Get a MC that's dedicated for track days. At this early stage I am leaning towards a Yamaha R3, or I may go all out and get the R6... amazing bike from what i've heard and read. I've got lots of MC experience in general, but practically no track experience.

Johnny J

#1000683 - 11/11/17 03:38 AM Re: Roadracing Suits [Re: JohnnyJ]  
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You'll find that less is more if you talk to folks that will be honest with you.
An R6 will keep you so busy, you'll be riding 15 drag strips on B/W and trying to get thru the corners without lighting up the rear tire.
I suggest looking in the classified of the Bay Area Riders Forum (. http://www.bayarearidersforum.com/forums/ ) for a race prepped
Kawasaki 250 or 350 Ninja. Not a Formula 250 but a Production 250 that has reworked suspension and is already prepped.
A gen 1 or 2 Suzuki SV650 Production would be another excellent choice.

Avoid the Formula bikes as you want a motor that hasn't been built or tuned to have a short fuse.
Either of these bikes with a stock motor would be a ton of fun and run forever.
Then get a suspension guy such as Dave Moss or Catalyst Reaction to set the suspension up for you.

Most track day providers have a guy onsite that will do this for a reasonable cost.
If you can find one that features a school , not just a trackday, you'll be money ahead.
You can also attend California Superbike School .
Pridmores CLASS school may not be a good fit as they teach a street line on a track.


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#1000850 - 11/13/17 04:44 PM Re: Roadracing Suits [Re: JohnnyJ]  
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Note that nearly every manufacturer of motorcycle gear also makes one-piece leather suits. Have a look around on Revzilla. They list 109 different models.

As a guy of retirement age, I think we need to recognize we're a little more fragile than we used to be. If I were in your position, I'd be really tempted to blow some extra money on one of Dianese's air bag suits: Dianese D-Air Race Suit.


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#1000856 - 11/13/17 05:21 PM Re: Roadracing Suits [Re: Bill_Walker]  
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Originally Posted by Bill_Walker
Note that nearly every manufacturer of motorcycle gear also makes one-piece leather suits. Have a look around on Revzilla. They list 109 different models.

As a guy of retirement age, I think we need to recognize we're a little more fragile than we used to be. If I were in your position, I'd be really tempted to blow some extra money on one of Dianese's air bag suits: Dianese D-Air Race Suit.


Probably a lot cheaper than one broken anything - and forking out the money will certainly be less painful than any amount of physical therapy. Plus I imagine it would have a decent resale value...

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#1000924 - 11/14/17 04:37 PM Re: Roadracing Suits [Re: szurszewski]  
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Originally Posted by szurszewski
Originally Posted by Bill_Walker
Note that nearly every manufacturer of motorcycle gear also makes one-piece leather suits. Have a look around on Revzilla. They list 109 different models.

As a guy of retirement age, I think we need to recognize we're a little more fragile than we used to be. If I were in your position, I'd be really tempted to blow some extra money on one of Dianese's air bag suits: Dianese D-Air Race Suit.


Probably a lot cheaper than one broken anything - and forking out the money will certainly be less painful than any amount of physical therapy. Plus I imagine it would have a decent resale value...


Good points! I completely agree. I've had lots of orthopedic surgeries and know the cost in both monetary terms and long term health consequences.

Initially my track riding will be comparable to street riding. As (or if) my speeds and exposure to risk increase, then so will the safety gear.

Thanks -- Johnny J

#1000932 - 11/14/17 11:16 PM Re: Roadracing Suits [Re: JohnnyJ]  
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Originally Posted by JohnnyJ
Originally Posted by szurszewski
Originally Posted by Bill_Walker
Note that nearly every manufacturer of motorcycle gear also makes one-piece leather suits. Have a look around on Revzilla. They list 109 different models.

As a guy of retirement age, I think we need to recognize we're a little more fragile than we used to be. If I were in your position, I'd be really tempted to blow some extra money on one of Dianese's air bag suits: Dianese D-Air Race Suit.


Probably a lot cheaper than one broken anything - and forking out the money will certainly be less painful than any amount of physical therapy. Plus I imagine it would have a decent resale value...


Good points! I completely agree. I've had lots of orthopedic surgeries and know the cost in both monetary terms and long term health consequences.

Initially my track riding will be comparable to street riding. As (or if) my speeds and exposure to risk increase, then so will the safety gear.

Thanks -- Johnny J



All the more reason to carefully select the bike.
An R6, makes a statement that perhaps a 60+ yr old body would have trouble keeping up with.
A CBR250, 500 or a 300 Ninja is what it is and relies on rider talent and experience
Add good suspension and an understanding of how to adjust it and it's fun.
Yes, you can get just as hurt or just as dead on a 250 as a 1000 but one is limited as to how much bravado one can use.


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#1000935 - 11/15/17 12:11 AM Re: Roadracing Suits [Re: JohnnyJ]  
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Originally Posted by JohnnyJ
Wow!! These are some great responses, Thank-you all! .........

........I recently retired and have the time to devote to this, but will take it slow and methodical. I'm frugal but not cheap; I want to get this one right.

Thanks again to all that responded.

Johnny J


This is a great thread for anyone considering serious "track time". thumbsup
I had a bad crash on my last track day back in 2004. Reading this thread sure does make me want to spend some serious time on a track. Fun to dream about, however, unlikely at age 72 and with some serious responsibilities for several sick and older family members. frown


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#1000936 - 11/15/17 12:29 AM Re: Roadracing Suits [Re: JohnnyJ]  
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Originally Posted by JohnnyJ

Good points! I completely agree. I've had lots of orthopedic surgeries and know the cost in both monetary terms and long term health consequences.

Initially my track riding will be comparable to street riding. As (or if) my speeds and exposure to risk increase, then so will the safety gear.

Thanks -- Johnny J


This sounds like you are just going to dip your toe into track day participation. With that in mind, I suggest you consider a couple of less expensive options:

- Some track day organizers allow textile suits such as Joe Rocket, AeroStitch etc. in Level 1 only (beginner/street rider), provided they have reinforced and padded shoulders, elbows, hips, and knee areas. This gives you a chance to have a track experience with gear you most likely already have.

- Look into renting leathers from the group putting on the track day.


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#1000950 - 11/15/17 10:46 AM Re: Roadracing Suits [Re: Tri750]  
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Originally Posted by Tri750
[quote=JohnnyJ]All the more reason to carefully select the bike.
An R6, makes a statement that perhaps a 60+ yr old body would have trouble keeping up with.
A CBR250, 500 or a 300 Ninja is what it is and relies on rider talent and experience


I've always felt that it is more fun to ride a slow(er) bike fast than a fast(er) bike fast, and fun is what track days are all about.

Frank


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