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#983821 - 04/02/17 08:53 PM Re: R1200RT-LC vs R1200GS-LC [Re: bobbybob]  
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Originally Posted By: bobbybob
Pricey option. I doubt there are any pillion plates designed for the RT but thought I'd ask.

I did take a test ride yesterday on a 2017 RT in the twisties north of Asheville. It was a good ride. I am kinda hooked. I would need a Cee Bailey shield, some Ilium Works bar risers, and *some* kind of crash bars. Any suggestions?

Side note--the 2017's transmission is redesigned and no longer clunky, and the GSAP is as smooth as a paddle shifter.


I haven't ridden a 2017 RT yet, but I did test ride a 2017 GSA to see if there was an improvement.
I agree, the transmission was noticeably improved over my '14RT and '15GS.
I disliked the clunky nature of shifting those machines in the lower gears.
Was one of the more prominent niggles that I had with the bikes.

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'76 Honda CB 550
'05 R1200RT
'06 R1200GS
'11 R1200GSA
'12 V-Strom 650
'03 K1200GT
'14 R1200RT
'08 K1200GT
'15 R1200GS
and more / All GONE
Current 3
'10 R1200GS
'16 Honda NC700DCT
'13 R1200RT
#983827 - 04/02/17 10:51 PM Re: R1200RT-LC vs R1200GS-LC [Re: bobbybob]  
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Originally Posted By: bobbybob
Has anyone ever mounted a topcase in place of the pillion seat on an RT? I have that setup on my GS, really like the backrest it provides plus mass centralization....


You could mount BMW's Soft Bag 3 Small on top of the pillion seat, which should make a nice backrest.



Or the Large:



John
'16 R1200RT (RT #5)
#983830 - 04/02/17 11:07 PM Re: R1200RT-LC vs R1200GS-LC [Re: JohnH VA]  
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Originally Posted By: JohnH VA
Originally Posted By: bobbybob
Has anyone ever mounted a topcase in place of the pillion seat on an RT? I have that setup on my GS, really like the backrest it provides plus mass centralization....


You could mount BMW's Soft Bag 3 Small on top of the pillion seat, which should make a nice backrest.



Or the Large:


Thanks and yeah, thats probably what I'll end up doing, with it resting against a hard topcase. I did that on my 07 RT and it worked, I'd just prefer to put the hard topcase in that spot. Dont think thats gonna work though. Might get a Givi Trekker case for the hardcase mount--bet it wouldn't look any wonkier than that huge 50+ litre monstrosity BMW sells for north of $1200.

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Bob
2017 R1200RT-LC
2015 R1200GS
2010 R12000GS (gone)
2007 R1200RT (gone)
2008 KLR650 (gone)
2007 F650GS (gone)
2006 FJR1300 (gone)
2005 V-Strom (gone)
2005 E-Glide Classic (gone)
#983910 - 04/03/17 08:24 PM Re: R1200RT-LC vs R1200GS-LC [Re: JohnH VA]  
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Originally Posted By: JohnH VA
Originally Posted By: bobbybob
Has anyone ever mounted a topcase in place of the pillion seat on an RT? I have that setup on my GS, really like the backrest it provides plus mass centralization....


You could mount BMW's Soft Bag 3 Small on top of the pillion seat, which should make a nice backrest.



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I used the small soft bag on the passenger seat between me and the top box for a cross country run on a K1600. It was brilliant. I had a couple of other bags of similar size and the large BMW bag as well. What made the BMW brand the winner was not the matching brand but the semi rigid base, being waterproof, great mounting points to have on the passenger seat and enough but not too many pockets.

It gave me some support when needed but was not so intrusive that it was hard to mount the bike or push me too far forward. It done good for me.

#983915 - 04/03/17 09:55 PM Re: R1200RT-LC vs R1200GS-LC [Re: bobbybob]  
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I tried a BMW soft bag a few years ago, the small one pictured above.
It supplied storage... but really... it provided no support for my back.

Even on my 2010 GS, with the mounting plate in place of the pillion seat and a Variocase with pads, it provide no real back support for me as the rider.
Maybe with risers and a dedicated effort to sit back it might.

Now, if used as a backrest for the pillion, when mounted aft, as it normally is, I suppose it provides a useful passenger backrest.

Anyway, for me, I can't imagine a soft bag providing much support, unless it's stuffed to the brim, and even then.


'76 Honda CB 550
'05 R1200RT
'06 R1200GS
'11 R1200GSA
'12 V-Strom 650
'03 K1200GT
'14 R1200RT
'08 K1200GT
'15 R1200GS
and more / All GONE
Current 3
'10 R1200GS
'16 Honda NC700DCT
'13 R1200RT
#983961 - 04/04/17 02:27 PM Re: R1200RT-LC vs R1200GS-LC [Re: DMilan]  
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I have a pretty bad back. Run over by a truck, literally, and dozens of complication from sports/accidens\ts.
That said, I can't imagine using backrests on a mc for the rider.
Pillion yes...
YMMV


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1996 R 100 RSL
1980 R 100 RT
1972 R 75
1968 R 50
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#983987 - 04/04/17 07:43 PM Re: R1200RT-LC vs R1200GS-LC [Re: tallman]  
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Originally Posted By: tallman
I have a pretty bad back. Run over by a truck, literally, and dozens of complication from sports/accidens\ts.
That said, I can't imagine using backrests on a mc for the rider.
Pillion yes...
YMMV
Have you tried it?


Bob
2017 R1200RT-LC
2015 R1200GS
2010 R12000GS (gone)
2007 R1200RT (gone)
2008 KLR650 (gone)
2007 F650GS (gone)
2006 FJR1300 (gone)
2005 V-Strom (gone)
2005 E-Glide Classic (gone)
#1001508 - 11/25/17 01:03 PM Re: R1200RT-LC vs R1200GS-LC [Re: bobbybob]  
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Madstad makes a windshield for the R1200R . I don't think it has cruise control though


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