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#1001808 - 12/02/17 03:56 PM Re: 2004 Boxer Cup Replica [Re: Utard]  
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Originally Posted by Utard
Hello Lowndes, I just ordered the cyclops bulbs and am going to also order a headlight modulator from Kisan.

Can you tell me if the the LED bulb have 2 tabs and does it separate from the cooling fan? I'm asking because the headlight modulator would need to be placed in between the LED bulb and fan.


Utard,

The LED "bulb" is a one-piece unit: the "bulb" or LED element part, with the cooling fan mounted directly on and part of the "bulb" (for efficient heat transfer?), with the "pigtail" connector and ballast or "bulb driver" box with a short lead to the two-blade connector.

I just stuffed the entire pigtail with ballast box into the space between the reflector and outer shell directly below the bulb and connect to the OEM bulb connector there. The air circulation by the fan inside the shell is enough to keep everything happy (so far). I have a Kisan modulator on the K1200 headlight, installed on the OEM wiring before it gets to the headlight. It, therefore, modulates the LED and fan, if that is your concern.

A constant on-off power supply would be bad for an incandescent bulb, not sure about a fan motor. However, I believe the Kisan is a hi-lo rather than on-off. I've read that is OK for LED's and that they run cooler that way rather than constant on.

The following pics are another brand (from ebay) but basically the same construction as the Cyclops unit, and handy for pics.

The complete unit:

[Linked Image]


The mounting ring/adapter removed:

[Linked Image]


Closeup of the "bayonette" twist and lock:

[Linked Image]


All the pics here:

https://photos.app.goo.gl/exO8qE0a76U3mrLI3


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#1001809 - 12/02/17 04:08 PM Re: 2004 Boxer Cup Replica [Re: AndyS]  
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Originally Posted by AndyS
Although I don't have a boxer cup (mine are 1150RT and R1200RTW) I have fitted this style of LED with success to both models. They just seem simpler:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Rover-Headlight-9600LM-4800LM-Bright/dp/B01I4MROB8


AndyS,

Those static heat sink/cooling braids are much simpler. I was concerned about heat dispersal while confined behind the cover and shell with no air circulation inside. If they were exposed to outside air flow (like installed in a car), I'd be more comfortable with it. But then, what happens when the fan fails??

Please let us know how these work for you, bulb life and heat dissipation.


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#1001845 - 12/03/17 04:06 AM Re: 2004 Boxer Cup Replica [Re: Utard]  
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Lowndes, thanks for the great information. Are you ever in Utah? At this point I owe you owe a beer ot two

#1001913 - 12/04/17 09:28 AM Re: 2004 Boxer Cup Replica [Re: Lowndes]  
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Hi Lowndes, I have used those braided ones for well over a year on my 1150 and they have performed admirably. Now I have 3 of them in my 1200 and so far i'm very impressed.

#1001926 - 12/04/17 02:26 PM Re: 2004 Boxer Cup Replica [Re: AndyS]  
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Originally Posted by AndyS
Hi Lowndes, I have used those braided ones for well over a year on my 1150 and they have performed admirably. Now I have 3 of them in my 1200 and so far i'm very impressed.


Andy, are your braids on the 1200 under the cap or through it? I've read posts about it done both ways, but no mention of the results. My preference would be tucked inside, but I wonder if there is adequate heat dissipation.


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#1001976 - 12/05/17 05:21 AM Re: 2004 Boxer Cup Replica [Re: Utard]  
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The lights arrived today and I got them installed. These are incredible! Thanks for answering all of my questions wave

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#1001989 - 12/05/17 06:02 PM Re: 2004 Boxer Cup Replica [Re: lkraus]  
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Originally Posted by lkraus
Originally Posted by AndyS
Hi Lowndes, I have used those braided ones for well over a year on my 1150 and they have performed admirably. Now I have 3 of them in my 1200 and so far i'm very impressed.


Andy, are your braids on the 1200 under the cap or through it? I've read posts about it done both ways, but no mention of the results. My preference would be tucked inside, but I wonder if there is adequate heat dissipation.


The braids on the 1200 and the 1150 are under their respective caps. I have been using the 1150 a LONG time at night with no fold-back in performance. I can't comment yet on the 1200RTW because I have only recently installed them, but I am pretty confident.

#1001991 - 12/05/17 06:25 PM Re: 2004 Boxer Cup Replica [Re: AndyS]  
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Originally Posted by AndyS
The braids on the 1200 and the 1150 are under their respective caps. I have been using the 1150 a LONG time at night with no fold-back in performance. I can't comment yet on the 1200RTW because I have only recently installed them, but I am pretty confident.


Sounds good. Thanks.


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