Twisties Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 ...or they flash. Yeah, I know, visibility is key. But is there a point when it becomes a hazard? I really find oncoming bikes with headlight modulators distracting, and I think they create a hazard. Lately, I've been seeing some super bright light bars, blinding even in full daylight. If I have to put my hand up over my eyes to block the light, I'd argue that safety is actually being diminished.... significantly.... for both of us and everyone else on the road. Link to comment
Francois_Dumas Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 There's a reason all of that stuff is not allowed on this end of the water..... Link to comment
Twisties Posted August 15, 2018 Author Share Posted August 15, 2018 There's a reason all of that stuff is not allowed on this end of the water..... If I understand correctly, some of it is illegal here too, but there is no enforcement to speak of. Link to comment
chrisolson Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 Completely agree ... but apparently there's a small (thankfully) cadre of folks that believe otherwise . Link to comment
mrzoom Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 I find the newer Harley's annoying bright. Coming home from the UN, I saw several big rigs with super white lights. Being so high up they were blinding to on coming traffic. Seems my Clear water's on high are also bothersome even with the amber lens. I get flashed until I turn them all the way down as low as they can go. However out here on the prairie when no on coming I need all the light I can get. The dark just swallows up light. Years ago I was driving my 1973 Dodge van home from Colorado on a 2 lane in Kansas next to a railroad. No other traffic so I had the 7" Hella 100 watts on high and the Hella bumper mounted road lights on too. This was an amp drawing, wire melting set up. The 100 amp alt. was doing its thing and the amp gauge showed 50 amps. On coming train on the tracks, who knew they had high beams.?? The flash was like the sun and I shut down my light show fast!! Link to comment
szurszewski Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 When I was a teen in Washington they enforced the laws regarding forward facing additional/off road lights pretty heavily. Doesn't look like they do at all anymore. Lots and lots of led light bars up here - used to require an opaque cover on road, but I haven't seen any of those and lots of folks run them day and night. Maybe the laws have changed? Link to comment
elkroeger Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 Remember the days of before halogen headlights? Or should I say "Quartz Iodine"? Two dim little 7" round lights. As if the bias ply tires and drum brakes weren't enough to make you slow down.... Link to comment
szurszewski Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 Remember the days of before halogen headlights? Or should I say "Quartz Iodine"? Two dim little 7" round lights. As if the bias ply tires and drum brakes weren't enough to make you slow down.... Nope. Link to comment
Bud Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 The drop in price for LED light bars has prompted a lot of this. I met a Jeep the other day in broad daylight who had a LED bar that spanned the width of the windshield. Hurt my eyes. But then again, I'm an old phart and sometimes a little grouchy. Link to comment
Francois_Dumas Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 The drop in price for LED light bars has prompted a lot of this. I met a Jeep the other day in broad daylight who had a LED bar that spanned the width of the windshield. Hurt my eyes. But then again, I'm an old phart and sometimes a little grouchy. g Aren't most of us here !? Link to comment
tallman Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 Some studies show modulators increase "conspicuity". Duh. But nothing I find about increased safety. Plenty of anecdotal however about decreases in "pulled right out in front of me" and left hand turns. I don't like them. But, like a bad haircut, you don't see it, they do. So? I had 2 sets of driving/running/fog lights on my GT so I could light up a huge triangle of light. Just like driving a school bus (done that) there are those who do WTF they want no matter what when driving. The light bar at higher levels is annoying. I think it creates a negative reaction or feeling in cage drivers. .02 Link to comment
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