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#1116 - 06/26/02 05:17 AM Re: General questions, issues, discussions [Re: Paul Mihalka]  
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Yeeeeeeeeeee-haw! We just received our Gunnison KOA reservation confirmation letter in the mail!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just wanted to share, carry on.


Sean Daly
'XX TBD
#1117 - 06/26/02 02:18 PM Re: General questions, issues, discussions [Re: Sean]  
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Does anyone have the actual address for the KOA and the Ramada? I'd like to plug them into my Street Atlas just to see how far I have to crawl home.


Terry aka Speedbump
2015 BMW Spyder RTL
2010 R1200 RT

00 R1100 RT (Sold)
03 K1200 LT (Sold)
(2) 07 R1200 GSA (Sold)
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#1118 - 06/26/02 03:20 PM Re: General questions, issues, discussions [Re: Agent86]  
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KOA Gunnison
105 County Road 50
Gunnison, CO 81230

Ramada
1011 W. Rio Grande Ave.
Gunnison, CO 81230



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#1119 - 06/26/02 03:55 PM Re: General questions, issues, discussions [Re: Sean]  
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Sean,

You sound as excited about this rally as me!!

Anyway, I have a question: How are you getting yourself, Shelley, all your moto gear, any clothes/toilletries you are bringing, AND camping gear to Gunny on one bike? Russell and I couldn't figure out how to fit all our stuff and camping gear on one bike, so we are motelling it. Are you staying in one of KOA's camping cabins or something? Even still, you have to bring your own bedding.

Just curious!




Bikes: Yamaha FZR, Suzuki DR 200

Godspeed Rodger and Gleno.
#1120 - 06/26/02 06:38 PM Re: General questions, issues, discussions [Re: EffBee]  
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I've looked through this thread and cannot find details of the rally other than it will be held on the 21st to the 23 of July in Gunnison, CO. Where are we meeting and at what time. It appears that a number of people will be camping at the local KOA, will that be the rally point?


JP & Susan
Aurora, CO
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#1121 - 06/26/02 07:11 PM Re: General questions, issues, discussions [Re: JP68]  
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Yes, the KOA will be Rally HQ, so to speak. We've not yet posted the final itinerary and times as they're still a bit in the air, but figure on the rally starting on Monday, the 22nd at about 6AM with free coffee, probably followed within the hour by some danish. It's all a very informal gathering primarily meant to help all of us meet those whom we've been cyberspacing with for anywhere from a few weeks to a few years. There will be a few formal events, a couple of rides led by members, and of course you're always free to take off on your own and enjoy the Rockies at your whim.


Cary, Gleno, Rodger, Paul,
Godspeed, my brothers.
We will never forget you.


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#1122 - 06/27/02 05:38 AM Re: General questions, issues, discussions [Re: 90%angel]  
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In reply to:

Anyway, I have a question: How are you getting yourself, Shelley, all your moto gear, any clothes/toilletries you are bringing, AND camping gear to Gunny on one bike?



Yep, it's a real trick! We've done it before though. We can barely get all of our stuff, and camping gear onto the RT (without lashing things to the outsides of the saddlebags). It requires very careful planning. Fortunately, Shelly is very good at minimalist packing and so am I. We also carry an ultralight tent, ultralight Thermarests (about the size of a half loaf of bread), and ultralight sleeping bags. It's amazing what you get find at REI these days!

I wear synthetic Ex-Officio "Air Strip" shirts, and convertible pants, which is versatile enough for everything from a hard day's ride, to an enjoyable evening meal at the local bar and grill at our destination. Since the pants are convertibles, they also serve as swim trunks. I really don't carry any cotton items (except for one long-sleeve cotton shirt to serve as a wet "cooling" shirt in the desert). Socks are synthetic too. These clothes are ultra versatile and ultra lightweight and pack down to next to nothing. So, I have the clothes on my back, and carry one spare pair of socks, one extra pair of swim trunks, and one or two extra shirts. These synthetic items can be washed in a campground or motel bathroom sink with some "Camp Suds" and you just keep alternating clothes and washings. I have all my toiletries in those little 1oz. bottles you can get from REI, and I have a complete toiletry kit with compact everything, and it's completely separate from my home toiletry items, so it's always ready to go and nothing's forgotten.

As for culinary items, I carry an Esbit solid-fuel stove (about the size of a deck of cards), a 1qt. Titanium kettle. The stove packs inside the kettle. This is all I need to boil water for coffee, oatmeal, freeze-dried meals, Ramen meals, etc. You can do a lot with just hot water. I sometimes also carry MRE's (Military "Meal Ready To Eat").

Everything is compact/miniaturized. Our flashlights consist of button-size LED flashlights, for example.

I'm terribly anal about packing and I make these detailed packing lists in Excel spreadsheets (with one sheet per saddlebag). Shelly usually gets a good laugh out of them. But to summarize:

Left saddlebag: (Sean's saddlebag)
Inner part of bag:
-BMW saddlebag liner, containing the following items:
-Spare socks
-swim trunks
-2 shirts
-toiletries
-Polartec fleece
-Synthetic long underwear
-heated vest
Outer lid:
-my sleeping bag
-camp shoes
-Room for Gore-Tex liners when I take them off

Right Saddlebag: (Shelly's saddlebag)
Inner part of bag:
-BMW Saddlebag liner with Shelly's stuff

Outer lid:
-Shelly's sleeping bag (her sleeping bag is bulkier than mine)

Top Case:
-Tent
-2 Thermarest pads
-Kettle and stove
-Food
-Pre-ground Starbucks or Dietrich's coffee
-Hot cocoa packets
-Water
-Shelly's camera
-Misc. drinks and snacks

Tank bag:
-My Nissan Stainless Thermos with my Starbucks coffee (gotta have it )
-My camera
-Hat
-Sunglasses

Glove box:
-First Aid Kit
-BMW motor oil in a plastic 8oz. flask
-emergency roadside flares
-emergency blanket
-instant cold pack
-Sawyer extractor
-Spare gloves
-Cell phone
-PDA with wireless modem
-Other stuff like phone charger, duct tape, glow sticks, Kleenex, etc.

Under seat storage:
-Tools
-Spares
-Bike related stuff that's always there.

Basically, take everything you got and miniaturize it. Get rid of bulky items like bluejeans, which are no good for travel. Jeans will make you cold if they get wet, they aren't versatile, they aren't so easy to wash at camp, and don't dry quickly. Go to REI and get some travel pants instead. No need to carry 3 t-shirts, 2-dress shirts, etc. etc. Just carry 1 shirt on your back, and 1 (or 2 max) shirts and then just wash your clothes at the camp site.

My tent is an "REI Half Dome." I had a tent maker, make me a custom set of tent poles that fold up to 15" instead of the standard 25", so that they'll fit inside my saddlebag.

I leave my big, bulky, 15 degree mummy bag at home and opted for a compact sleeping bag with a 45 degree rating instead. It packs down to the size of a half loaf of bread--much smaller than a conventional sleeping bag. I have used this bag down to 28 degrees so far and been just fine. If I get cold, I just wear my fleece and long underwear into the sleeping bag.

Anyway, it's totally do-able if you and Russel want to do it. Maybe Shelly can give you some pointers from her perspective too--she's a very good packer.

Anyway, you must be a minimalist packer, "miniaturize" everything as much a possible, and only carry items that are multipurpose.


Sean Daly
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#1123 - 06/27/02 05:56 AM Re: General questions, issues, discussions [Re: Sean]  
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From the looks of your new avatar, you seem to also be prepared should the fires still be flaming in CO


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#1124 - 06/27/02 06:21 AM Re: General questions, issues, discussions [Re: Sean]  
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Hmmm. Russell is also a pretty anal packer. He could probably do this, if we had all the gear you had. Unfortunately, our tent is HUGE, our sleeping bags suck (aren't rated for cold weather and are bulky), and we don't have those versatile clothes of which you speak. Right now, it isn't in the budget to get all that, but perhaps we can start collecting it little by little and be set in time for the next unrally! No biggie though...I like camping pretty well, but motelling it has its advantages too. Bed...hot shower...shampoo and soap provided...

Also, we were planning on bringing our Joe Rocket Phoenix jackets for the desert travel (with nothing but bike shorts and t-shirts underneath), and our Gerbings and regular jackets for the cooler mountain stuff. Thus the problem...with two sets of gear, one has to be stowed, and that takes up an incredible amount of room.

Throw in a couple extra t-shirts apiece, some jeans or something for the gatherings around the campfire, or at dinner, or whatever as well as a camera, combs, sunscreen, maps, hats (have to have a cap to cover up helmet hair!), PDAs, tools, cell phones, etc. and you have a lot of junk to schlepp out there!

I am inspired though. If you guys can get all that to Colorado, we should be able to get all our stuff there!

Thanks for the insight


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Godspeed Rodger and Gleno.
#1125 - 06/27/02 08:11 AM Re: General questions, issues, discussions [Re: Sean]  
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Sean, I have two things to say to you:

1. Wow.
2. Seek help.

That's a great way to do this stuff. As Lisa said, all of our camp stuff is cheap and really pretty functionless (nevermind Multifunction). It's something that I've been wanting to work on...but other priorities prevail for now.

PS. I am NOT anal when it comes to packing. I'd LIKE to be, but it seems I always wind up working on the bike at the last minute so I have no time to be anal with the packing. Hopefully this time will be better.


Russell
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