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#408704 - 11/01/08 09:28 AM Re: Crash at the Dragon-Caught on Film [Re: RightSpin]  
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So I have a question on the Accident. In reviewing it I noticed the other motorcyclist in the opposite lane going the opposite direction of the accident bike. Based on the timing of the accident , we dont actually see the other MC until about the 3rd frame and at that point he is 100 feet beyond the seen of the accident.
So at the average rate of speed , might he have been coming up in his lane at the same time the accident MC was about to pass the truck and at that point the Accident bike could not veer into the other opposing lane because both bikes were at the same point on the road and so the Accident bike trying to stay in his lane as a last resort was already at a passing speed that couldnt be adjusted in time and ran into the side of the truck.


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#408726 - 11/01/08 01:13 PM Re: Crash at the Dragon-Caught on Film [Re: yabadabapal]  
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 Originally Posted By: yabadabapal
Based on the timing of the accident , we dont actually see the other MC until about the 3rd frame and at that point he is 100 feet beyond the seen of the accident.
So at the average rate of speed , might he have been coming up in his lane at the same time the accident MC was about to pass the truck and at that point the Accident bike could not veer into the other opposing lane because both bikes were at the same point on the road and so the Accident bike trying to stay in his lane as a last resort was already at a passing speed that couldnt be adjusted in time and ran into the side of the truck.


No that would not be the case.
As you observed/stated in the 3rd frame the lead bike appears to be 100 feet beyond the other two vehicles.
It may be less then that but ill-regardless the distance of separation is substantial.
This accident (group of images) was over in a mater of seconds so the timing for your scenario is wrong.


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#408888 - 11/02/08 01:54 AM Re: Crash at the Dragon-Caught on Film [Re: RightSpin]  
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 Originally Posted By: RightSpin
Here is the picture with a few annotations which should be self-explanatory.



Still a great picture..... I would blow that one up and hang it on the wall, if it was me. Minus the red, green and yellow lines.

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#408891 - 11/02/08 02:10 AM Re: Crash at the Dragon-Caught on Film [Re: tallman]  
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 Quote:
I'm tired of seeing people ride the Gap like they owned the road.
The cops are there because people like me got tired of having to avoid collisions from better riders (obviously) than I am.
When they put me, and my passenger, at risk for serious bodily harm, and possible death, and appear to have the ability and intent to cause such harm, perhaps I should defend myself as I would from any other lawbreaker who chooses, intentionally, to put a law abiding citizen's life at risk by acting in an illegal, criminal manner.

I couldn't have said it better myself Tallman. Nothing like over-analyzing a simple situation.


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#409142 - 11/02/08 11:46 PM Re: Crash at the Dragon-Caught on Film [Re: SpaceKing]  
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 Originally Posted By: SpaceKing
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I'm tired of seeing people ride the Gap like they owned the road.
The cops are there because people like me got tired of having to avoid collisions from better riders (obviously) than I am.
When they put me, and my passenger, at risk for serious bodily harm, and possible death, and appear to have the ability and intent to cause such harm, perhaps I should defend myself as I would from any other lawbreaker who chooses, intentionally, to put a law abiding citizen's life at risk by acting in an illegal, criminal manner.

I couldn't have said it better myself Tallman. Nothing like over-analyzing a simple situation.


Agreed. How would you defend yourself?


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#410563 - 11/06/08 05:35 AM Re: Crash at the Dragon-Caught on Film [Re: MAT2CHI]  
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 Originally Posted By: MAT2CHI



I've seen that picture sequence a dozen times, but what I've always found interesting is the stop motion of the front wheel compared to the back. Now shutter speed of the camera will of course cause this, but its interesting that the back wheel seems to be still in rotational motion. It looks like the guy was full on at least the front brake as it lost pavement contact.


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#410566 - 11/06/08 05:56 AM Re: Crash at the Dragon-Caught on Film [Re: Ken H.]  
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There is no shutter speed invloved in that photo. The front wheel is off the tarmac.
With some braking pressure the wheel will dead stop as it has in the photo.
The rear is still bitting so it's still spinning... since his foot is about to be ripped back. No foot braking there.


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#410568 - 11/06/08 05:57 AM Re: Crash at the Dragon-Caught on Film [Re: Ken H.]  
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I suspect he has a handful of front brake and the throttle is wide open.


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#410576 - 11/06/08 08:18 AM Re: Crash at the Dragon-Caught on Film [Re: Ken H.]  
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Every time I see this photo, I reckon that the un-coolness of a full face helmet was probably passing through his mind. You can almost smell his drawers from the look on his face.

#411058 - 11/07/08 08:57 PM Re: Crash at the Dragon-Caught on Film [Re: ESokoloff]  
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 Originally Posted By: ESokoloff
I have to wonder if the rider became distracted by the photographer?


You've got to be kidding me. Surely your point is not to somehow blame it on the photographer! There are lots of people and interesting things on the side of the road everywhere I go. My job is two things: Pay attention or stop the bike. That's it.


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