BMWSportTouring BMWST DB
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Page 1 of 2 1 2
#474656 - 05/11/09 07:51 AM 2006 VS 2009 R1200RT-P  
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 3
kjc625 Offline
Just Joined
kjc625  Offline
Just Joined

Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 3
LA, CA
What is major difference between these two? I searched the web and came empty handed.

Do they have same braking system?

thx in advance.

#474994 - 05/12/09 03:05 AM Re: 2006 VS 2009 R1200RT-P [Re: kjc625]  
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 389
knight88 Offline
Member
knight88  Offline
Member

Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 389
Los Angeles
Price?


Glenn - 04 1150RTP

"Serendipity is looking for a needle in the haystack and finding the farmer's daughter"
#475170 - 05/12/09 05:38 PM Re: 2006 VS 2009 R1200RT-P [Re: kjc625]  
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 808
Trinity Offline
Member
Trinity  Offline
Member

Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 808
Dallas, TX, USA
My experienced hands here may correct me, but I believe the servo assist brakes were not eliminated until 2007 model year. I had the servo assist brakes on my '04 GSA and found them to be overly sensitive/non-linear...they were a continuing nuisance and it was a real PITA to bleed the brake circuits. I now have an '08 RT without the servo assist and I'm MUCH happier with the brake feel/performance, especially riding two-up.

Note, this is a highly personal thing and you'll find a lot of folks who like the added "bite" of the servo assist... Just goes to show... cool


Byron Lawrence
Dallas, TX
('08 R1200RT)
#475285 - 05/12/09 09:58 PM Re: 2006 VS 2009 R1200RT-P [Re: Trinity]  
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 237
sundaeman Offline
Member
sundaeman  Offline
Member

Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 237
Maryland
Big difference is servo brakes (I don't mind them). US Authority wiring harness is slightly different. ASC and 2-3 other options are available for the 2009, and one more standard color. That's all I can think of offhand.


R1200RTP
#475292 - 05/12/09 10:37 PM Re: 2006 VS 2009 R1200RT-P [Re: knight88]  
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 1,360
Lmar Offline
Member
Lmar  Offline
Member

Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 1,360
Prescott, Az / Cold Lake, Ab
Can anyone buy a R1200RT-P or do you have to be in law enforcement?


L-Mar

2009 R1200RT
#475652 - 05/13/09 10:49 PM Re: 2006 VS 2009 R1200RT-P [Re: Lmar]  
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 237
sundaeman Offline
Member
sundaeman  Offline
Member

Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 237
Maryland
Originally Posted By: Lmar
Can anyone buy a R1200RT-P or do you have to be in law enforcement?


Qualified yes.

A US R1200RT-P, is a US R1200RT variant, electrically it has a R1200RT-P wiring harness, two batteries, larger alternator, an additional US wiring harness, and a few other things. Cosmetically it has protection bars, "Authority" side cases, additional light brackets and a 1-up seat/radio box configuration. As far as the power train goes, it has different valve specs, gearing & a engine oil cooler. It also has slightly different software for the various controllers (ZFE, Engine, etc.). Standard US paint colors are Black/White, Titan Silver & Barritz Blue.

Generally anyone can purchase the motorcycle described above, except (think) in California a new black & white vehicle may not be sold to the masses.

Some long distance riders are attracted to the larger alternator & dual batteries.

Other items like lighting is dependent (in the US) on the laws and regulations where the vehicle is registered. There are companies/people who own RTs/RTPs who are not law enforcement that perform escort duties for funerals, bicycle races, large equipment, among other things (a few EMS providers) and their lighting, etc. conforms to local laws.

Putting lettering that says "POLICE", "TROOPER", etc. would generally be considered in extremely bad taste and probably ruin a nice ride in the afternoon.

What ultimately makes a fully equipped police motorcycle is the sworn motor officer. The RT-P just happens to be a variant on the RT, with features attractive to law enforcement.

If I missed something please chime in.


R1200RTP
#475662 - 05/13/09 11:07 PM Re: 2006 VS 2009 R1200RT-P [Re: sundaeman]  
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 3,764
motorman587 Offline
Member
motorman587  Offline
Member

Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 3,764
Florida
The oil cooler fans. I think that is what you meant. The seat is a little tricky to get off. You have to open the cop bags, push a button under the butt pad and slide that part out. Takes a couple of times to get use to it.
The trunk that uses the same key as the ingnition. Also the speedometer is also on the display. The BC button locks your speed you are going on the display. You can see the speed lock in the area where the BC shows, fuel use, fuel left, etc...... Cops use that for a pace clock to pull folks over.


John
Florida
2004 BMW R1150R Black
2002 Honda Goldwing Yellow
Contact me 4 motor training (one on one)
Expert witness in motorcycle crash reconstruction (contact me)
#475697 - 05/14/09 12:15 AM Re: 2006 VS 2009 R1200RT-P [Re: sundaeman]  
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 1,360
Lmar Offline
Member
Lmar  Offline
Member

Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 1,360
Prescott, Az / Cold Lake, Ab
Interesting, thank you for the info. I don't think we would be able to buy an RT-P in Canada?


L-Mar

2009 R1200RT
#475846 - 05/14/09 02:00 PM Re: 2006 VS 2009 R1200RT-P [Re: Lmar]  
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 431
BailyD Offline
Member
BailyD  Offline
Member

Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 431
New Jersey
John, wasn't there something you pointed out about the brakes? The front lever controls both front and rear....the rear pedal just controls the rear? Is that the PD bike or civilian too?

Kevin


Harley Electra Glide (Police), BMW's F650GS-P (retired), R1200RT-P (turned over to Jr. Ofc.) 2015 Harley Electra Glide (current)
#826236 - 03/29/13 12:28 AM Re: 2006 VS 2009 R1200RT-P [Re: sundaeman]  
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 145
Solo6 Offline
Member
Solo6  Offline
Member

Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 145
Sorry to resurrect a zombie thread, but this was too funny to pass by.

While looking at this thread (just curious, because I ride a 2007), the young daughter of a friend of mine was looking over my shoulder.

The question came up about whether the RTP is for law enforcement only, and this was part of the response:

Originally Posted By: sundaeman
Putting lettering that says "POLICE", "TROOPER", etc. would generally be considered in extremely bad taste and probably ruin a nice ride in the afternoon.


With the world full of wisdom that only a 7-year-old can possess, she pointed to the statement and said "It doesn't ruin the afternoon of the OTHER motorcycle that says 'Police' on it!"

Page 1 of 2 1 2

Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.6.0
Page Time: 0.009s Queries: 15 (0.002s) Memory: 2.7993 MB (Peak: 2.9871 MB) Zlib enabled. Server Time: 2017-11-24 18:29:55 UTC