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#735774 - 10/21/11 11:54 AM Re: Ride Well Revival [Re: Voodoo]
motorman587 Offline
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Registered: 03/07/03
Posts: 3764
Loc: Florida
My $.02 on ABS brakes. I would never ride a motorcycle without it. Just me, I am one of those over the years believes that it "will" happen to me, no matter how great of rider I think I am.

ABS is there just in case the rider miss read the road condition that he\she was riding over at the time they applied their brakes. Different road surfaces vs. different brake pressure and in a panic your brain/eyes can not process all that information quick enough. I have been to many, many crashes where the rider panic and over pressured the brakes causing a lock up and crash.

So my point is, if you have ABS forget that you have it and practice normal hard braking. Do know what the motorcycle does when ABS mode is kicked in. Practice Practice!!!!

John
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#737751 - 10/29/11 04:00 AM Re: Ride Well Revival [Re: Voodoo]
robert85 Offline
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Registered: 10/29/11
Posts: 22
Loc: New Delhi,India
Think it's more dangerous to ride without, due to the fatigue after prolonged exposure to noise. A tired rider is a poor rider.

Can't remember the source now, but there's a test in a magazine somewhere that proved that there is _no_ helmet available that provides sufficient noise protection in itself at 40mph pluss. Ear plugs relieves the rider of the discomfort of the constant noise. It also protects the ear from the long term damage associated with that exposure! This is no little concern, hearing damages are very serious illnesses. The numbers of people totally disabled by hearing damage is huge.

I do a bit of sound engineering, using a sound pressure level meter to keep things in the safe area. Can usually guess the dB level fairly accurate now. Got a good idea of what sort of pressure 90 deciBels are, the safe level limit for 8 hours of exposure to sound. .. and 95db for 4 hours, 100db for 2 hours, and so on. An unsilenced motorcycle is about 110dB(according to the litterature, haven't tried!), which is damaging after 30 minutes of daily exposure!

Even with plugs, those 90 dB's can easily be pushed on the motorbike. Particullarly if the speed is high, headwind is strong or the helmet/head gaps makes a lot of turbulence. This varies a lot with the helmet/rider fit.

The most prominent noise comes from the gaps between the neck and the helmet, probably especially so for those gaps making a tube of air going up into the helmet. Try covering different spots on the base of the helmet with one of your hands while riding. The noise will almost disappear when you find the points of turbulence.

Had some success patching these spots with duct tape. smile Would probably work better with a flexible material like neoprene. There's neck warmer tubes available that totally fills the gap around the bottom liner of the helmet. Anyone got any experiences with these regarding noise?

Just have to say this as an audio geek: Take care of your ears! All hearing damage is accumulative and nonreversible. thumbsup
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#737784 - 10/29/11 10:49 AM Re: Ride Well Revival [Re: robert85]
Kathy R Offline
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Robert85, Welcome to the board thumbsup
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#749414 - 12/26/11 10:03 AM Re: Ride Well Revival [Re: Voodoo]
Miriam Offline
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Registered: 03/02/03
Posts: 507
Loc: the Netherlands
@Voodoo Wow, what a time that was when Master Yoda was still holding court. I learned a lot from him and just love they way he approaches motorcycling and his respect towards everyone esp. those wanting to learn. He made quite an impression on me. Also the others, we've had some great discussions. Only DB ever I actually felt proud to be a part of. Most are awfull, all about ego, not about learning. Thanks you guys!
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#749416 - 12/26/11 11:44 AM Re: Ride Well Revival [Re: Miriam]
Paul Mihalka Offline
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Registered: 07/20/00
Posts: 12058
Loc: Sykesville, MD
Miriam, long time no read! Welcome back! Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!
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#749424 - 12/26/11 02:01 PM Re: Ride Well Revival [Re: Miriam]
tallman Offline
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Registered: 12/22/02
Posts: 19614
Loc: Tallahassee, Florida
Big HI, Miriam.
Happy holidays.

Jungle Jim/
Voodoo
sounds like a movie plot.
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I hope the roads are as much fun as ever for you.
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#814245 - 12/22/12 04:38 AM Re: Riding technique with ABS - modifications? [Re: Voodoo]
brady Offline
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Registered: 12/17/12
Posts: 24
Loc: Portland, OR
This is one of my favorite articles an riding. It is by Nick Ienatsch who has several book on riding but this sums it all very nicely.

http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/flashback/122_0911_the_pace_nick_ienatsch/
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