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#622062 - 07/29/10 01:41 PM Re: Another final drive trashed on the way home from the UN [Re: KDeline]  
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Originally Posted By: KDeline
Then by my count there has been 4 final drive issues with just the folks at the UN, two with Kate and I alone? And this is not adnormal by BMW standards? Nice.


With all do respect, It may be time for you to move on. I have been where you are, final drive failure hell thousands of miles from home. I had to walk, ride, away from BMW for 5 years.

This final drive issue is way old news, same old, same old, for the last decade. You either accept the fact that the final drive repair is part of the BMW deal or you become a very unhappy man.

Good luck with what ever bike you pick.

#622064 - 07/29/10 01:44 PM Re: Another final drive trashed on the way home from the UN [Re: SageRider]  
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Yes, and no.
How many riders who came to the UN rode over 400 miles?
What percentage?
There were a lot of folks there from far and near.

At the EP's and BRR's there are many riders who do that.
Not arguing that the Un doesn't get more long distance riders, and in fact, that is part of my theory, that the long droning rides, which are UNcommon in Europe, may contribute to seal/FD failure.

However, at the first El Paseo, we had riders from over 1,000 miles west and north, plus plenty of 500-700 mile trips.
Then 3-800 miles of riding, then trip home.
Don't recall a FD failing.
Do recall 2 feet of snow and winds so bad bikes had to be parked by some.

There may not be any causal factors, it may purely be luck of the draw, some minor assembly difference, I don't know, but it anecdotally seems that maore report are made during long trips, particualarly out west with wide open distances between locales.
Makes me wonder.
Best wishes.


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#622071 - 07/29/10 01:53 PM Re: Another final drive trashed on the way home from the UN [Re: tallman]  
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Quote:
How many riders who came to the UN rode over 400 miles?

Over 90%


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#622095 - 07/29/10 02:33 PM Re: Another final drive trashed on the way home from the UN [Re: SageRider]  
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The only point is that there were not 4 final drive failures.
Do we now count a weepy seal as a F/D failure?

Anyone who is unhappy or afraid of the failure rate should really consider moving to a different brand.

Both Ken and Marty are friends of mine and I wish it hadn't happened to them. They posted their frustration and should have...but what is the point of of the constant piling on by others. Do you think BMW is watching and will suddenly change something?


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#622100 - 07/29/10 02:37 PM Re: Another final drive trashed on the way home from the UN [Re: Marty Hill]  
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"Do you think BMW is watching and will suddenly change something?"

They should.


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#622136 - 07/29/10 03:48 PM Re: Another final drive trashed on the way home from the UN [Re: Paul Mihalka]  
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Originally Posted By: Paul Mihalka
"Do you think BMW is watching and will suddenly change something?"

They should.


Your right, but this saga has been going on for years and is would appear that nothing has been done.


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#622168 - 07/29/10 05:00 PM Re: Another final drive trashed on the way home from the UN [Re: CoarsegoldKid]  
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Has anyone reported these defects to the NHTSA Office of Defects Investigation? You never know! Here's the link to filing a complaint.

http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/ivoq/index.cfm


-Avi
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#622209 - 07/29/10 06:44 PM Re: Another final drive trashed on the way home from the UN [Re: AviP]  
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Originally Posted By: AviP
Has anyone reported these defects to the NHTSA Office of Defects Investigation? You never know! Here's the link to filing a complaint.

http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/ivoq/index.cfm


yes

#622397 - 07/30/10 05:21 AM Re: Another final drive trashed on the way home from the UN [Re: Marty Hill]  
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Originally Posted By: Marty Hill
The only point is that there were not 4 final drive failures.
Do we now count a weepy seal as a F/D failure?



I hope mine is not, so far it is holding, but we have another problem, posted in Hexheads. This is wearing us out.

#623127 - 08/02/10 12:01 PM Re: Another final drive trashed on the way home from the UN [Re: Paul Mihalka]  
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Originally Posted By: Paul Mihalka
"Do you think BMW is watching and will suddenly change something?"

They should.


...bING...we've got another winnah..!


h A N N A b O N E
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