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#909722 - 10/28/14 01:41 AM Sorry, mate, I didn't see you!
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This came up in another thread and it was suggested I post it on its own. I do think it's been posted before.

The most common car-bike accident occurs when a driver entering or turning across a roadway fails to see an oncoming bike and violates the bike's right-of-way. In the UK and Australia, this is referred to as a "SMIDSY" accident, for Sorry, Mate, I Didn't See You. The problem occurs because the human eye is attracted to motion, and an oncoming motorcycle presents a very small target with very little visual evidence of motion. This video illustrates the problem, and also shows a maneuver we can use in these situations to catch a driver's eye. I have not had a single car pull out or turn in front of me since I started using this maneuver, either on my motorcycle or on my bicycle. That being said, you should of course still be prepared to avoid the car if it violates your right-of-way.

Here's the video: SMIDSY
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#909882 - 10/29/14 04:46 PM Re: Sorry, mate, I didn't see you! [Re: Bill_Walker]
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This was an excellent video because I learned some simple, useful riding techniques. It demonstrates the problems of motorcycle visibility and what you can do counter this problem.

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#909975 - 10/30/14 03:22 AM Re: Sorry, mate, I didn't see you! [Re: Bill_Walker]
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Indeed, interesting video.
Thank you for posting it.

In the past few days I have been finding myself zig-zagging on the road for no good reason. It could be that I am just bored, and thinking about this video; but certainly will try it when I notice a vehicle on the side street (at a stop sign) about to bolt out -or not.

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#910072 - 10/30/14 10:07 PM Re: Sorry, mate, I didn't see you! [Re: Bill_Walker]
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I use it for vehicles entering the road from parking lots, driveways, side streets, parallel parking spaces, you name it, and of course for left-turners.
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#910140 - 10/31/14 05:16 PM Re: Sorry, mate, I didn't see you! [Re: Bill_Walker]
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Very insightful!

Thanks Bill thumbsup

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#910213 - 11/01/14 02:56 PM Re: Sorry, mate, I didn't see you! [Re: Bill_Walker]
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Not to sound like a BH but i've been using this technique for years. Actually thought I invented it. smile Ok, that may sound a little blowhard-ish. rofl


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#910946 - 11/07/14 08:38 PM Re: Sorry, mate, I didn't see you! [Re: Bill_Walker]
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I've read about this technique in one of David L. Hough's safety books some years ago. On occasion I use it, mostly when riding in suburbia or similar places.

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#913022 - 11/26/14 03:19 PM Re: Sorry, mate, I didn't see you! [Re: chrisz]
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I have heard that in some jurisdictions weaving like that will get you a citation. Never understood that, but have been discouraged from doing it.

Not sure if I quite accept the "looming" concept as described, but I'll buy the rest.
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#913400 - 12/01/14 10:35 PM Re: Sorry, mate, I didn't see you! [Re: Twisties]
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Originally Posted By: Twisties
I have heard that in some jurisdictions weaving like that will get you a citation. Never understood that, but have been discouraged from doing it.

Not sure if I quite accept the "looming" concept as described, but I'll buy the rest.


My attitude about such things is that I'll do whatever the hell I think is most likely to keep me alive.

If a LEO takes issue with any of it, I'll be very happy to be alive to have that conversation with him/her. If I get a ticket...meh. Tickets are cheaper than hospital stays or funerals.
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#917261 - 01/11/15 03:39 AM Re: Sorry, mate, I didn't see you! [Re: Bill_Walker]
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That one's new to me. Thanks for posting. Makes sense for the most part.

I'm not sure I fully caught that bit about the background moving behind you. I get it, except: Why would it be different in various situations? Seems like the difference would be related to how closely you'll be passing by the car. But generally you'd be riding almost directly at the driver who's waiting to pull out, so it doesn't seem like it would vary that much from situation to situation. Unless you're rounding a bend with an intersection in the middle. Am I missing something?


Edited by elkroeger (01/11/15 03:39 AM)
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