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#9235 - 09/22/03 10:23 PM Re: Bleedin' 1150's brakes can't stop Mama Hoon! [Re: Haynes]  
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If I have any trouble, can you two come over and help?





No problem! We'll just have Jim Moore drop us off!


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#9236 - 09/22/03 11:21 PM Re: Bleedin' 1150's brakes can't stop Mama Hoon! [Re: KMG_365]  
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A really fine job of describing that voodoo job! No small effort on your parts to do it that well, I imagine. Thank you!

In the step "draining the rear wheel reservoir," did you take the cap off and dunk the hose end of the syringe into the reservoir?


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#9237 - 09/23/03 01:30 AM Re: Bleedin' 1150's brakes can't stop Mama Hoon! [Re: KMG_365]  
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Do you have to do anything differently for the 1100 RT?
If not I'm coming over to your place and doing mine.


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#9238 - 09/23/03 01:42 AM Re: Bleedin' 1150's brakes can't stop Mama Hoon! [Re: KMG_365]  
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Excellent job guys! Looks like another "BMW dealer/technician only" myth disappears into thin air.

Hmmmm, what's next? Maybe the clutch replacement is within our grasp afterall.


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#9239 - 09/23/03 02:10 AM Re: Bleedin' 1150's brakes can't stop Mama Hoon! [Re: KMG_365]  
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You two ROCK!!!

Here we have probably the last big mysterious service that the dealers assure you that you need a Ph.D in mechanical engineering, $200,000 in special tools, and a Shaolin Master to do and it turns out that it is a straightforward and simple process requiring only basic tools. (Shaolin Master optional for entertainment purposes only.)

Awesome.


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#9240 - 09/23/03 02:22 AM Re: Bleedin' 1150's brakes can't stop Mama Hoon! [Re: russell_bynum]  
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it turns out that it is a straightforward and simple process requiring only basic tools. Awesome.


The only tool more basic than broken chunks of wood,might be a rock. Great photos and write up.


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#9241 - 09/23/03 05:47 AM Re: Bleedin' 1150's brakes can't stop Mama Hoon! [Re: Bill Dennes]  
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Hi Greg!

Glad you like it! Of course you all are free to use the info however you wish! I know I'm by far not the first to have done this and have learned much myself from others who have gone before me. If they hadn't posted their experiences and lessons learned, I probably would've continued to try to "pay no attention to the man behind the curtain . . . . " I would love to see any corrections/cautions/additions/tips/tricks to add to this tome for the benefit of us all! For instance:

I forgot to list the proper SpeedBleeder sizes for the 1150.

Front calipers: 2qty 8mmX1.25
Rear caliper: 1qty 6mmX1.0
control circuits: 4qty 7mmX1.0 (I would use longer ones to make them easier to reach!), and 2qty 7mmX1.0-Extra Long (the long stock ones are almost 5cm long overall--SB doesn't make them--yet!)
Clutch bleeder: 1qty 10mmX1.0

Also, unfortunately, though SB makes some metric sizes, they still use SAE stock to make them, so you need a 1/4" open end wrench for the 6mm rear.

Also, some metric wrench sets sold in the US don't have 7mm wrenches for the stock control circuit bleed screws.

Bill,

Yes, you remove the cap to the reservoir and place the hose (with the old bleed screw on the end as a flow restrictor/drip eliminator) down inside the hole and draw off the old fluid--THEN--push out/shim the pistons and re-draw off as much old fluid as you can get out. Remember the photos are just for reference and are not shown in order. Follow the correct order/procedure shown in the manual. I didn't take pics of each individual step to save time, as they would not look that different anyway.

Here is a detail of the syringe/tubing I made for the job:




And a detail shot of the ABS unit showing the front and rear wheel circuit reservoirs:




A better detail shot of the Mini-Stan:




And detail of it istalled:



And Jerry, if you've got the 1100's manual . . . BRING IT!! (yours are even simpler! ) The 1100 uses different size SpeedBleeders, though.


And lastly, if you want to see the photos from the rest of the control circuit and clutch bleeds before I finish the procedure write-up, go here.


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#9242 - 09/23/03 09:39 AM Re: Bleedin' 1150's brakes can't stop Mama Hoon! [Re: Win3855]  
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Guy's what can I say, a great article and super photos. Why cant "professional" manuals do it like this. This a real service to the BMW community, many many thanks for taking the time to put this together.
I take it from one post I have missed some of your other posts, its time to dig out your others. This is what the web is all about for me.

Thanks so much, all the best from bonnie Scotland.

#9243 - 09/23/03 12:05 PM Re: Bleedin' 1150's brakes can't stop Mama Hoon! [Re: KMG_365]  
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Jamie & Les,

Great job. I was wondering if it makes a difference if you take the calipers off and shim them, or leave them on the rotor. I just got the funnel and cap to make the mini-stan, and the speed bleeders came the other day. I hope to do mine soon.

Thanks,



Burt
#9244 - 09/23/03 01:44 PM Re: Bleedin' 1150's brakes can't stop Mama Hoon! [Re: mm02czu]  
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" Why cant "professional" manuals do it like this. This a real service to the BMW community, many many thanks for taking the time to put this together................................" This is what the web is all about for me."

That says it all right there. This site has helped so many people over the years.

I'm pretty impressed with the two of you guys .
Now all I need to do is get the correct speed bleeders and you're going to see me on your doorstep.
Any idea what sizes I need? And will a Haynes manual do or do I need to borrow the CD from someone?


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