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#982496 - 03/19/17 03:32 PM Re: Looking to purchase a 06 R1200GS [Re: dirtrider]  
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Great guidance. I should point out that the seller is a reputable BMW dealer and the bike came in on a trade in. It would be a stretch for my budget to go to a 08 or 09 as I plan to keep my RT. I guess it comes down to weighing in a buffer for possible repairs versus saving for a newer model.

#982498 - 03/19/17 03:46 PM Re: Looking to purchase a 06 R1200GS [Re: MoteroNC]  
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Originally Posted By: MoteroNC
Great guidance. I should point out that the seller is a reputable BMW dealer and the bike came in on a trade in. It would be a stretch for my budget to go to a 08 or 09 as I plan to keep my RT. I guess it comes down to weighing in a buffer for possible repairs versus saving for a newer model.


Afternoon MoteroNC

If a BMW dealer has it then ask if the bike comes with a 30 day (or longer) dealer warranty. If not then maybe they know something they aren't telling you up front.

If the bike comes with (even a short) dealer warranty then they probably have confidence that the bike is in somewhat decent condition (drive train wise).

If they don't/won't offer (even a short) dealer warranty period then push like he!! to get that as part of the deal. If they don't have confidence in that that bike then why should YOU have confidence in that bike?


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#982517 - 03/19/17 08:32 PM Re: Looking to purchase a 06 R1200GS [Re: MoteroNC]  
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I'm wondering about the "as is" condition of the sale. In my (limited) experience words like that are used to protect the seller and should serve as a warning to the buyer. Does something need to be fixed that the seller prefers not to do? Especially from a dealer, I'd like to know why the bike is described that way rather than "in good condition" or similar.
Why would a dealer not want to add value by doing a thorough inspection and if they have inspected it, what did they find that made them add this condition?
Or am I just being overcautious?


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#982619 - 03/20/17 11:56 PM Re: Looking to purchase a 06 R1200GS [Re: TheOtherLee]  
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Your point is valid. I am going to push on the 30 day warranty plus a copy of their inspection as DT suggested. I really keen to know the condition of the clutch and also the suspension system.

#982639 - 03/21/17 11:39 AM Re: Looking to purchase a 06 R1200GS [Re: MoteroNC]  
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I really like my 05 R1200RT but keep the following in mind.

* I had to purchase an aftermarket seat - the BMW saddle hurts.
* I also had to purchase aftermarket shocks - the stock shocks did not provide good control in corners. I also made sure it did not have the controllable shocks (I think they are ESA?).
* I just had to have work done on the master cylinder for the front brakes which was pricey.

Other than these items, it is a wonderful bike. I mention this as there is very little difference between the 05 and 06 RTs.


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#982813 - 03/23/17 12:38 AM Re: Looking to purchase a 06 R1200GS [Re: Sonor]  
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Thanks Z-man. Did you consider a used brake system replacement versus repair? Just curious on the $$

#982843 - 03/23/17 11:03 AM Re: Looking to purchase a 06 R1200GS [Re: duckbubbles]  
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Originally Posted By: duckbubbles
Originally Posted By: mitchntx
Linked brakes as well. Watch that low speed, using the rear brake pedal only. It puts a LOT of front brake in play. It makes slow speed turns interesting sometimes.

It uses about 1/2 qt oil every 1000 miles.
I believe you are mistaken about the linked brakes. The front and rear are linked when using the front brake, the rear acts alone when using the rear brake pedal.

1/2 qt. in 1000 miles seems excessive. My '05 hexhead used 1/2 qt. in 5000 miles.

Frank


Prior to 2007, the brakes were fully linked. Frank is correct for the 2007 and later 1200s.

#982844 - 03/23/17 11:37 AM Re: Looking to purchase a 06 R1200GS [Re: MoteroNC]  
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Hey MoteroNC - luckily I do not go to a dealer and the mechanic I use is fantastic. He was able to diagnose the problem to the point that the mastercylinder only needed replacement parts for the inside and I did not need a full new one. If I had, I would have seen if beemerboneyard or some place else had a used one. The saga continued on my repairs, as it turned out the drive boot and rear break pads needed to be replaced so the $$ added up. Still, all in all with the Ohlins and Russell Day Long, the bike is wonderful.


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#982851 - 03/23/17 01:23 PM Re: Looking to purchase a 06 R1200GS [Re: Dave_in_TX]  
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Originally Posted By: Dave_in_TX
Prior to 2007, the brakes were fully linked. Frank is correct for the 2007 and later 1200s.


Prior to the hexheads, the brakes may have been fully linked. Beginning with the 2004 GS and the 2005 RT, the brakes are partially linked.

From the 2004 GS manual:
Partially integral brakes
The integral brake function
interlinks the front and rear
brakes, so both wheels are
braked when you operate the
brake lever.
The electronic controller in the
BMW Integral ABS computes
the braking-force distribution
between the front and rear
wheels, and applies the brakes
accordingly.
Braking-force distribution
depends on load and is recalculated
every time the ABS
controller comes into action.

In this partially integral brake
configuration, the integral braking
function is activated only
when you pull the handbrake
lever. The footbrake lever acts
only on the rear brake.
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#982854 - 03/23/17 01:43 PM Re: Looking to purchase a 06 R1200GS [Re: Dave_in_TX]  
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Originally Posted By: Dave_in_TX
Originally Posted By: duckbubbles
Originally Posted By: mitchntx
Linked brakes as well. Watch that low speed, using the rear brake pedal only. It puts a LOT of front brake in play. It makes slow speed turns interesting sometimes.

It uses about 1/2 qt oil every 1000 miles.
I believe you are mistaken about the linked brakes. The front and rear are linked when using the front brake, the rear acts alone when using the rear brake pedal.

1/2 qt. in 1000 miles seems excessive. My '05 hexhead used 1/2 qt. in 5000 miles.

Frank


Prior to 2007, the brakes were fully linked. Frank is correct for the 2007 and later 1200s.


My understanding is that in 2005, BMW started using partially integrated brakes, replacing the fully linked brakes on the 1150 used from 2002 to 2004?


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