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#983373 - 03/28/17 11:20 PM Re: R1200RT-LC vs R1200GS-LC [Re: bobbybob]  
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Originally Posted By: bobbybob
Nice vid--and I am heading up to the snake tomorrow. smile

I always liked the "stealth mode" of my old hexhead. Or is that just a result of the mic placement for the camera? My GS is kinda rumbly when accel/decel thru the twisties. I prefer quiet.


Funny coincidence on the Snake!

Just a Sena Mic tucked up under my chin piece. Refined is the best definition I can give you of the LC-RT. thumbsup


Pat


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#983376 - 03/28/17 11:30 PM Re: R1200RT-LC vs R1200GS-LC [Re: TEWKS]  
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Thanks. Do you also have a GSA? If so, and the GSA is a "10" in handling the twisties, how would the RT rate? Or maybe the RT's the 10....

I guess I need to get one up to the twisties.

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2017 R1200RT-LC
2015 R1200GS
2010 R12000GS (gone)
2007 R1200RT (gone)
2008 KLR650 (gone)
2007 F650GS (gone)
2006 FJR1300 (gone)
2005 V-Strom (gone)
2005 E-Glide Classic (gone)
#983379 - 03/28/17 11:52 PM Re: R1200RT-LC vs R1200GS-LC [Re: bobbybob]  
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I have a 12 Camhead regular GS along side of the LC-RT. I once said a well ridden GS could spank an RT on twisty roads. Now, I've been running Heidenau tires on the GS for a few seasons and I don't feel as confident with that statement. Maybe some road based tires and a trip south could have me believing that again.

Pat

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#983389 - 03/29/17 02:18 AM Re: R1200RT-LC vs R1200GS-LC [Re: bobbybob]  
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I have a 14' RT and have spent a good deal of time on a 15' GS, either a rental or my friends GS. Both of us race Ducati's and feel we have a pretty good feel for handling a bike. My friend always felt his GS handled better than my RT but this January we took a trip out of LA on two rental 16' RT's. Lots of canyons over 5 days. Once home he decided to get an RT. YMMV.....

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#983397 - 03/29/17 11:12 AM Re: R1200RT-LC vs R1200GS-LC [Re: bobbybob]  
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Originally Posted By: bobbybob
Thanks. Do you also have a GSA? If so, and the GSA is a "10" in handling the twisties, how would the RT rate? Or maybe the RT's the 10....

I guess I need to get one up to the twisties.


If the GSA raters a 10, then the RT would be an 11.

#983398 - 03/29/17 11:24 AM Re: R1200RT-LC vs R1200GS-LC [Re: Dave_in_TX]  
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Originally Posted By: Dave_in_TX
Originally Posted By: bobbybob
Thanks. Do you also have a GSA? If so, and the GSA is a "10" in handling the twisties, how would the RT rate? Or maybe the RT's the 10....

I guess I need to get one up to the twisties.


If the GSA raters a 10, then the RT would be an 11.

And thats coming from a pre-LC RT, correct?


Bob
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2007 R1200RT (gone)
2008 KLR650 (gone)
2007 F650GS (gone)
2006 FJR1300 (gone)
2005 V-Strom (gone)
2005 E-Glide Classic (gone)
#983438 - 03/29/17 07:10 PM Re: R1200RT-LC vs R1200GS-LC [Re: bobbybob]  
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Originally Posted By: bobbybob
Have any of you really wrung out an LC-RT in the twisties...vs a GSA? Thats where a lot of my riding takes place. My old hexhead RT was not real happy there and felt quite ponderous compared to my GS-LC. But I know the new LC-RT has new steering geometry, just haven't been able to try one in the twisties so far.


I went from an 05 Hexhead RT to a 16 GS. The GS is so much easier to ride in the tight twisties than my older RT. I have not ridden the liquid cooled RT, but I'm sure there's a vast difference between the 05 model and the 2016. I switched to a GS because of better airflow for the hot southeast summers and the lighter handling in the twisties.


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#983498 - 03/30/17 11:30 AM Re: R1200RT-LC vs R1200GS-LC [Re: bobbybob]  
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Originally Posted By: bobbybob
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Originally Posted By: bobbybob
Thanks. Do you also have a GSA? If so, and the GSA is a "10" in handling the twisties, how would the RT rate? Or maybe the RT's the 10....

I guess I need to get one up to the twisties.


If the GSA raters a 10, then the RT would be an 11.

And thats coming from a pre-LC RT, correct?


Correct.

#983525 - 03/30/17 03:33 PM Re: R1200RT-LC vs R1200GS-LC [Re: bobbybob]  
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Originally Posted By: bobbybob
Anyone here spent time riding both bikes, maybe even owning both? I left RT's when I sold my hexhead RT for a 2015 GS-LC. I did test ride an LC-RT just before buying the GS so I am aware of the significant improvements in handling made with the LC-RT's. I keep wondering if the RT is maybe even as flickable as the GS, and thinking about having one in the stable along with the GS. Anybody done both? TIA. wave


I gave the GSW a try in 2014. It was one of several attempts to warm up to the ADV style bikes. I've had a few of the more street oriented bikes from this category like all three versions of the Multistrada, a Tiger 1050 and ultimately the GSW. They are all very enjoyable bikes, especially the current Multistrada with the DVT. That is a brilliant bike. However, they require too much compromise to make them appear well rounded and those compromises make them less useful street bikes when compared to an RT. Very, very few of us will be taking any of these bikes offroad to the point where taller suspension is required. If we really want to ride bikes on dirt roads get the right tires, you don't need a GS.

What I really missed with the GS that I can get on the RT include:

* 17" front wheel that makes turning so effortless. The GSW turns well, the RT brilliantly.

* Multiple settings for heated grips. GSW heated grips are either a bit too warm or not quite warm enough. RTW has I believe five not two settings.

* RTW has heated seats with several heat settings. GSW no heated seat.

* GSW has a lighter weight on paper because that weight is listed without bags that not only add to the cost of the GSW but bring the weight right where the RT's weight is. Take the bags off the RT which are included in the price and we are not talking apples to apples. AND you did not have to pay extra for the side bags on the RT. RT carries weight lower which lets it handle better too.

* The fairing on the RT not only provides better weather protection, it has nice storage and great range of windshield adjustment.

* Wonder wheel is much more functional on the RT. It is very limited on the GS.

* RT's luggage is more spacious on all three bags.

If the RT was not available I would have liked the GSW more. It is a great bike. I'd have missed that great 17" front wheel from a real street bike but I could have gotten okay with it. I'm just glad the RTW was as great as it is. I got the GSW because the previous RT was not good enough and the GSW was better than the previous RT. The current RT blows away the GS for me.

If you are happy with the GS the RT is certainly worth a try. Take your GS, add better handling, weight being carried lower, bigger luggage, more storage, more adjustment to the rider comfort and aids and better protection from the elements and you have the RT.

#983531 - 03/30/17 04:04 PM Re: R1200RT-LC vs R1200GS-LC [Re: Ralphie]  
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Nice comparison, thanks for posting that!


Bob
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