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#983686 - 04/01/17 12:48 PM Re: R1200RT-LC vs R1200GS-LC [Re: selyab]  
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Originally Posted By: selyab
I have an R12RTW and a 2011 R12GSA. I love them both for different reasons. If you were never going off road with the GS it would all boil down to how much time you are doing interstate speeds. The more time at high speeds the more you need an RT over a GS. The same goes for how much bad weather you ride in. On a sunny mild day going below 50 mph the GS is perfection.


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#983689 - 04/01/17 01:29 PM Re: R1200RT-LC vs R1200GS-LC [Re: bobbybob]  
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Originally Posted By: bobbybob
Thanks for all the comments.

More questions:
1) Is the OEM windshield good or do you need aftermarket?
I have been on one stock BMW in their history that worked. But my helmet is a bit higher than most/
2) Seat--same question?
rofl My GT stock is pretty nice, there has been one other in their history, but, there are plenty who stay stock.
3) What crash bars do you use?


If my mind wanders, should I follow it?
Tim
Conch Town Krewe
2003 K 1200 GT
1996 R 100 RSL
1980 R 100 RT
1972 R 75
1968 R 50
All now gone...

#983696 - 04/01/17 04:21 PM Re: R1200RT-LC vs R1200GS-LC [Re: bobbybob]  
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Originally Posted By: bobbybob
Anyone here spent time riding both bikes, maybe even owning both? I left RT's when I sold my hexhead RT for a 2015 GS-LC. I did test ride an LC-RT just before buying the GS so I am aware of the significant improvements in handling made with the LC-RT's. I keep wondering if the RT is maybe even as flickable as the GS, and thinking about having one in the stable along with the GS. Anybody done both? TIA. wave


I've done both and sold both...
Was disappointed in what I consider to be annoyingly noisy and unrefined drivetrains..but you already know that I feel that way from my postings.

I prefer a GS (or any adventure style bike) riding position. The wide bars and leverage, along with the upright riding position are very comfortable IMO.
Accordingly, I think a GS is more "flickable.

As for your latest questions regarding windscreen and seat...

The standard 2014 RT LC screen was not good for me.
Put concentrated airflow right in my face shield, which I prefer to have open/up.
Laminar lip helped a lot. Didn't fit very well though. I think LL just sells the 2013 RT lip. I don't know though, haven't checked their site recently.

Any shield with a flip on the top would help.
There's a nice gent here that sells "Werks" screens. They look to have a nice flip.. and they are priced right.
I think Aeroflow's latest screens have a pronounced flip at the top as well, but they are pricier.

As for the seat..didn't keep the bike long enough to have much opinion about it.

Good luck BB.

Last edited by DMilan; 04/01/17 05:37 PM.

'76 Honda CB 550
'05 R1200RT
'06 R1200GS
'11 R1200GSA
'12 V-Strom 650
'03 K1200GT
'14 R1200RT
'08 K1200GT
'15 R1200GS
and more / All GONE
Current 3
'10 R1200GS
'16 Honda NC700DCT
'13 R1200RT
#983701 - 04/01/17 06:45 PM Re: R1200RT-LC vs R1200GS-LC [Re: bobbybob]  
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Something nobody else has brought up: what about the R1200R? You lose the telelever front end, but you should get the quicker handling of a 17" front wheel with the greater, um, ventilation of a unfaired bike. And without the height of a GS. Bags and windshields are available. I gather there is a somewhat lower level of technology integration.

Has anybody here ridden one? I haven't. But it's on my list to check out if I ever get serious about getting a new bike, for many of the reasons brought up in this thread.


"Dry-Town" Crew, San Diego
'15 R1200RT
'12 Kawasaki KLX250S
'04 R1150RT (gone)
'02 Suzuki V-Strom (gone)
#983704 - 04/01/17 07:15 PM Re: R1200RT-LC vs R1200GS-LC [Re: Bill_Walker]  
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Put a Parabellum Scout fairing on it, choose from the multiple height screens, and enjoy.
Looks like an R 90/100 S cousin.
We set up maybe 5 like that when the R1200 came out.
Raves...


If my mind wanders, should I follow it?
Tim
Conch Town Krewe
2003 K 1200 GT
1996 R 100 RSL
1980 R 100 RT
1972 R 75
1968 R 50
All now gone...

#983712 - 04/01/17 09:03 PM Re: R1200RT-LC vs R1200GS-LC [Re: tallman]  
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Spec-sheet drawbacks of the R1200R: a 4.7 gallon tank, instead of the RT's 6.6. BMW quotes the same "60 mpg at a constant 55 mph" mileage for both, but that would be for an R1200R without bags or windshield. Also, alternator output is down from 540 W to 508 W. Still seems pretty ample.


"Dry-Town" Crew, San Diego
'15 R1200RT
'12 Kawasaki KLX250S
'04 R1150RT (gone)
'02 Suzuki V-Strom (gone)
#983717 - 04/01/17 11:52 PM Re: R1200RT-LC vs R1200GS-LC [Re: Bill_Walker]  
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Bill,
Friend, customer, set up his R 1200 R w/the Scout.
2up, with camping gear.
Cross country trip.
Averaged mid 50's mpg.
Well over 200 mile range, and not conservative speeds.
Plenty of range, IMO.
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If my mind wanders, should I follow it?
Tim
Conch Town Krewe
2003 K 1200 GT
1996 R 100 RSL
1980 R 100 RT
1972 R 75
1968 R 50
All now gone...

#983774 - 04/02/17 02:15 PM Re: R1200RT-LC vs R1200GS-LC [Re: bobbybob]  
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Has anyone ever mounted a topcase in place of the pillion seat on an RT? I have that setup on my GS, really like the backrest it provides plus mass centralization....


Bob
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2015 R1200GS
2010 R12000GS (gone)
2007 R1200RT (gone)
2008 KLR650 (gone)
2007 F650GS (gone)
2006 FJR1300 (gone)
2005 V-Strom (gone)
2005 E-Glide Classic (gone)
#983803 - 04/02/17 05:09 PM Re: R1200RT-LC vs R1200GS-LC [Re: bobbybob]  
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#983808 - 04/02/17 05:53 PM Re: R1200RT-LC vs R1200GS-LC [Re: bobbybob]  
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Pricey option. I doubt there are any pillion plates designed for the RT but thought I'd ask.

I did take a test ride yesterday on a 2017 RT in the twisties north of Asheville. It was a good ride. I am kinda hooked. I would need a Cee Bailey shield, some Ilium Works bar risers, and *some* kind of crash bars. Any suggestions?

Side note--the 2017's transmission is redesigned and no longer clunky, and the GSAP is as smooth as a paddle shifter.


Bob
2017 R1200RT-LC
2015 R1200GS
2010 R12000GS (gone)
2007 R1200RT (gone)
2008 KLR650 (gone)
2007 F650GS (gone)
2006 FJR1300 (gone)
2005 V-Strom (gone)
2005 E-Glide Classic (gone)
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