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#988296 - 05/31/17 05:14 PM UnRally XVI 2017 - GPS Route Files  
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Since we are getting so close to people's launch dates, it seems time to post the routes. For descriptions of the SportTouring routes, refer to the UnRally XVI 2017 - Roads and Routes thread. (NOTE: the DualSport routes are not described in any thread and are not yet available.)

The routes are available in both .GDB and .GPX formats. Each of those files have been zipped to speed up download and ensure file integrity.

Click on the appropriate link(s) below to download the file(s) you want (you should only need either GPX OR GDB, not both).

UN XVI 2017 - ST Day Rides:


UN 2017 - ST Day Rides (GDB)

UN 2017 - ST Day Rides (GPX)

UN XVI 2017 - ST Short Loops:

UN 2017 - ST Short Loops (GDB)

UN 2017 - ST Short Loops (GPX)

UN XVI 2017 - DS Routes: (Added 06/06/2017)

UN 2017 - Dual Sport (GDB)

UN 2017 - Dual Sport (GPX)

Added 06/06/2017: NOTE: These routes are for street-oriented GPSs (like Zumos, etc.). For those of you with off-road capable GPS devices, a small amount of obvious editing will be required to bridge gaps between some route segments. A short overview/explanation about these off-road routes will follow.


A post will follow clarifying some myths about importing routes from others and a short procedure to ensure imported routes perform as intended by the route originator.

Last edited by TyTass; 06/06/17 02:46 PM.

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#988298 - 05/31/17 06:05 PM Re: UnRally XVI 2017 - GPS Route Files [Re: TyTass]  
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Why Check the Import of Routes Originated By Others?

To ensure you end up following a route as intended by the originator, there is a relatively easy procedure (refined by Kinsley) that should be performed when importing routes. This procedure helps you identify and correct any deviations that arise before you load the routes into your device.

However, before posting that, I want to debunk a few persistent myths that cause many to presume there is no need to check the effect of recalculation of these routes for their devices and settings.

- Myth #1: A GPS is a GPS. They all do the same thing and interpret routes from other people the same way.
- Truth #1: GPS's do not all operate the same way. Every GPS device interprets routes according to their hardware, firmware, operating systems, and maps sets. So, differences won't just be between brands, but also between different model series, and potentially between different firmware versions of the same models as well. Having different maps is also a point of potential deviation.

- Myth #2: If I have the same model as the route originator, with the same firmware version, AND the same maps, any route imported will be as intended.
- Truth #2: Even if a person has the same device and maps as the route originator, their preferences may likely be different, and result in a difference between their routes.

(NOTE: While one can debate endlessly which preference setting yield the best results, we have found that due to the large number of alternate and parallel back roads and even driveways that show up on the various Map Sets of the Southern Appalachians, Fastest Time rule set (as opposed to Shortest Distance) results in the fewest departures from the intended roads with the fewest shaping points.)

- Myth #3: A route originator can create a route so robust with shaping points that it can't be reinterpreted incorrectly regardless of the previous discussion.
- Truth #3: While a route originator can indeed reduce the likelihood for unintended differences, the route itself cannot account for all possibilities. In fact, depending on how robust the originator makes the route, it can exceed the ability of some devices to even import all the points as intended.


All this to say the devices we use are not of the same accuracy and performance characteristics as the GPS systems used by aircraft, ships, etc. so, don't expect that kind of predictability. We operate in a far less than perfect world than they do.

We have done our utmost to provide routes that will import and recalculate with the minimum number of corrections. Now on to the procedure ...



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#988299 - 05/31/17 06:12 PM Re: UnRally XVI 2017 - GPS Route Files [Re: TyTass]  
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Procedure for Finding & Correcting Deviations in Routes From Others

This is the procedure Kinsley developed be ensure routes originated by others run in your device as intended by the originator.

Perform the following steps:

- Open the GDB or GPX file in your editing software, then make duplicates of each route (usually a right click will show the option). (I recommend doing this one route at a time so as to avoid confusion.)

- Change the color of the Duplicate route (usually double click, then go to “Info” and look there)

- Note the mileage, then Re-calculate the Original route. The mileage should stay the same. (If so, you're finished.)

- If the route mileage is different, look for the color you changed the Duplicate route to. You will need to add a Waypoint or Via point to the Original route to make it match the Duplicate route. Once the two routes are the same, delete the Duplicate route, then load the Original route(s) onto your GPS.



Craig
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#988300 - 05/31/17 06:14 PM Re: UnRally XVI 2017 - GPS Route Files [Re: TyTass]  
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Thank you. clap


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#988319 - 05/31/17 10:27 PM Re: UnRally XVI 2017 - GPS Route Files [Re: TyTass]  
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I've been studying the routes in the prior thread. THANK YOU for taking the time to research, plan and publish these for the rest of us.

Looking forward to some of the DS routes. With my hack, I should be able to do at least some of them.

Having this event as a goal has helped my mental attitude in ways you can not imagine.


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#988351 - 06/01/17 05:50 AM Re: UnRally XVI 2017 - GPS Route Files [Re: Bud]  
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Bud,

You're welcome ... but I must confess this UN has had the very same effect for me but for different reasons.

I'm finalizing the DS routes with Bill (roadscholar), who assures me these routes will be big bike friendly. I've only ridden a 100 or so miles off-road in the area.

The hold up is that these routes aren't tremendously GPS friendly for most devices. So, I'm trying to make routes as GPS-friendly as possible.


Craig
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#988364 - 06/01/17 12:04 PM Re: UnRally XVI 2017 - GPS Route Files [Re: Bud]  
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Originally Posted By: Bud

Having this event as a goal has helped my mental attitude in ways you can not imagine.



Amen Brother, Amen.


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#988656 - 06/05/17 01:24 AM Re: UnRally XVI 2017 - GPS Route Files [Re: TyTass]  
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I'd like four hours of my life back. Fired up the Garmin 660, Basecamp, and Garmin Express. Express quickly says there is a new map to be had, so I downloaded it to the 660. Something called "Worldwide Autoroute DEM Basemap, NR". That's gotta be a problem because that name is hideous.

Someone stole the Cherohala Skyway. Look what happens when I recalculate Dragon The Line (and the others). It sends me to BFE instead of turning on to one of God's sweetest roads. The shaping points are there but the road is gone. At max detail settings it does not show at full zoom.

I am clearly doing something wrong.

Opine.




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#988657 - 06/05/17 01:52 AM Re: UnRally XVI 2017 - GPS Route Files [Re: Jake]  
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Was there a map update? If there was, you should have downloaded City Navigator 2018.2


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#988658 - 06/05/17 01:58 AM Re: UnRally XVI 2017 - GPS Route Files [Re: marcopolo]  
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Thanks - you're on the right track. I closed out Basecamp and reopened it. That revealed a pathway to CNNA on my SD drive, so I was then able to switch the map.

I believe problem solved.

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