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#994713 - 08/16/17 05:14 AM moto crash video quiz
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Here's one on youtube. First clip of the compilation. Motorbike gets rear ended. Can you see what the motorcyclist did wrong that probably contributed? Aside from the one thing I'm thinking of, do you see anything else they could have done better?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5SnHeiCPIs
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#994714 - 08/16/17 05:34 AM Re: moto crash video quiz [Re: elkroeger]
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Looks like he got his brake light covered with cargo.
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#994719 - 08/16/17 11:56 AM Re: moto crash video quiz [Re: elkroeger]
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~ Brake light covered due to poor packing.
~ No warning to traffic approaching from rear of traffic stopping
(flashers, hand signal).
~ No check of mirrors to see if someone was approaching him from
behind/take evasive action
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#994732 - 08/16/17 01:41 PM Re: moto crash video quiz [Re: elkroeger]
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one thing that stands out is he was centered in the lane, which didn't give the driver behind him an indicator that traffic was stopped. And obviously, his brake light was covered.

FWIW, In those same situations, I try to weave slightly in my lane to get the driver's attention. I can't assume that my brake light is bright enough, or even working. Weaving has shown to get people's attention.

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#994733 - 08/16/17 01:42 PM Re: moto crash video quiz [Re: AZgman]
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Originally Posted By: AZgman
~ Brake light covered due to poor packing.
~ No warning to traffic approaching from rear of traffic stopping
(flashers, hand signal).
~ No check of mirrors to see if someone was approaching him from
behind/take evasive action


Covering the brake light was the big one (probably unintentional; his gear might have just flopped down from the top of the heap after he started riding).

Either of the other items on that list might have helped. I'll also add hi-viz gear to the list, anything to make him more conspicuous. Looked like kind of a gray day, maybe after sunset, judging by all the oncoming headlights. Brighter colors might have made him stand out better.

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#994735 - 08/16/17 02:08 PM Re: moto crash video quiz [Re: elkroeger]
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Agree with all of what has been said and will add that bein centered directly behind his riding buddy instead of staggered to one side hid his buddy's stop light which was clearly on after the guy got punted to the side. Probably lucky his buddy did not get collected!

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#994746 - 08/16/17 04:26 PM Re: moto crash video quiz [Re: elkroeger]
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Any of the above would have been a good idea, but I have to wonder if it would have made a difference here - I suspect the driver of the dashcam vehicle may have been distracted - as I was - by the oncoming convoy...


Edit to add: That's a dumb thing I just said - one thing mentioned above would have easily avoided the incident: the rider having been paying attention to his rear zone, and ready to move into the open right front zone when it became apparent the truck (?) was not stopping.


Edited by szurszewski (08/16/17 04:27 PM)
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#994747 - 08/16/17 04:42 PM Re: moto crash video quiz [Re: elkroeger]
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I watched several minutes of this and my mind is blow by all of the crazy drivers. Some unnaturally stupid actions.
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#994749 - 08/16/17 04:53 PM Re: moto crash video quiz [Re: szurszewski]
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Originally Posted By: szurszewski
Any of the above would have been a good idea, but I have to wonder if it would have made a difference here - I suspect the driver of the dashcam vehicle may have been distracted - as I was - by the oncoming convoy...


A lot of the things we do are not about making guarantees; they are simply about swaying the odds in our favor. The convoy with its dazzling headlights is indeed mesmerizing, so your job is a rider is to try to draw attention back to yourself. Bright colors, bright/unobscured brake lights (ideally with flashing hyperlights or similar), better lane positioning, and so on. Some people are so distracted that nothing you do will bring their eyes back to you - but for other drivers, your efforts to make your position/movement/acceleration can make the difference between a crash and a nice ride.

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#994752 - 08/16/17 05:54 PM Re: moto crash video quiz [Re: elkroeger]
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I may add that since installing VoloLights on my RT, I've noticed a definite and noticeable decrease in tailgaters.

https://vololights.com/

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